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Old 08-07-2005, 09:08 AM
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Supercharged ls2 seems to be a strong rumor lately (from GM/not aftermarket)

Whatever GM decides to power up the new camaro I really don't think the corvette guys will give a ****.

2009 is a long @ss lead time though...
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Ya 2009 is a LONG time away! I hope its just a badass ride! I was gonna start saving money for a truck, maybe I'll just start saving for a new Camaro!
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Originally Posted by jdustu
actually the few 6.1s that have been dynoed are showing 450-470 at the flywheel........
It wasn't net though. That was gross without any accessories. I forget what mag it was, but they did the test to see how the new 6.1 compared to the old 426. Since they couldn't put together a new 426 assembly to test net power, they just made the 6.1 up like it woudl have been in 1970 to test gross.

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2009 is a long @ss lead time though...
Yes, it is...
Old 08-07-2005, 10:39 AM
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this has been thoroughly discussed on Camaroz28.com

2009 is too far away. It will more likely be 2008.
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Even 2008 is too far away. It would be awesome if they could cut a Camaro loose by '07 just in time to celebrate 40 years. Well, sorta 40.
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Originally Posted by blkbird_WS-6
Even 2008 is too far away. It would be awesome if they could cut a Camaro loose by '07 just in time to celebrate 40 years. Well, sorta 40.
That is quite possible (consider the platform it is being built on).
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Originally Posted by blkbird_WS-6
Even 2008 is too far away. It would be awesome if they could cut a Camaro loose by '07 just in time to celebrate 40 years. Well, sorta 40.

Ya that would be awesome if they would re-release it as an anniversary car! I'll take 2 please!
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Originally Posted by Abidar
this has been thoroughly discussed on Camaroz28.com

2009 is too far away. It will more likely be 2008.
or 2007. specifically june/july of 2007 as a 2008 model?
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
It wasn't net though. That was gross without any accessories. I forget what mag it was, but they did the test to see how the new 6.1 compared to the old 426. Since they couldn't put together a new 426 assembly to test net power, they just made the 6.1 up like it woudl have been in 1970 to test gross..
i'm not talking about any engine dyno tests, i'm talking about chassis dynos where a couple stock srt 8 magnums and a 300 srt 8 make 370 hp and ft#s at the wheels.....

btw, did that motor trend test show them both at 367hp?
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Originally Posted by jdustu
btw, did that motor trend test show them both at 367hp?
No, the original engine put down 467 observed SAE gross horsepower. They said this was with the engineers using different headers, race fuel etc. to get the numbers up. Then SRT did the same thing with the present engine because it was the only way to match them up, using headers, race fuel, etc. and they also put down 467.
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Originally Posted by WECIV
I thought the idea was to get the car out extremely fast?
It is. Lutz is pissed because of how long the Solstice has taken to go from concept to dealership lot, and they're still not in dealerships. GM is trying to speed up the design/production cycles of all their cars to get them to market faster to react to market changes better. So if they're bringing it back for the Auto show this Jan. I can't see it taking nearly that long ot actually bring it to market.
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btw, did that motor trend test show them both at 367hp?
Originally Posted by Ru2n00n3er
No, the original engine put down 467 observed SAE gross horsepower. They said this was with the engineers using different headers, race fuel etc. to get the numbers up. Then SRT did the same thing with the present engine because it was the only way to match them up, using headers, race fuel, etc. and they also put down 467.
so that would be yes, then....
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I'll be impressed if they can go from the 2006 concept to 2008 production of a 2009 model. It took 11 years (1982) for the California Camaro concept to become the production 4th Gen.

For a late 2008 new model launch, they'd have to have the design 95% nailed already, so it's likely that the 2006 concept will be very much like the final production vehicle.
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so that would be yes, then....
YES that they dynoed the same, but no since they dynoed 467 instead of 367.
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Originally Posted by Ru2n00n3er
YES that they dynoed the same, but no since they dynoed 467 instead of 367.
oh yeah,i'm a moron........i meant 467, but i had been looking at a chart that showed 367 at the wheels so i confused myself.....doesn't take much
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Im gonna start saving now ! I hope GM does muck it up!
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Sucks that there will be no Birds, its bitter sweet, cool that the camaro is coming back, better not look or weigh anything like the current gto, though I kinda like the gto, and if with the gt500's and the 425 hp hemi, GM needs to put more punch in their performance cars. Good news overall though but it should have stayed in production.
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Originally Posted by Chris95Z
Sucks that there will be no Birds, its bitter sweet, cool that the camaro is coming back, better not look or weigh anything like the current gto, though I kinda like the gto, and if with the gt500's and the 425 hp hemi, GM needs to put more punch in their performance cars. Good news overall though but it should have stayed in production.
Well GM cant let the 400hp Corvette get in their way if they want to compete w/ the GT500. The SRT Hemi's are going to be a "problem" but they're more luxury performance sedans than sport coupes, so I think GM shouldnt be "too" worried about them in performance, but more in sales.

They've got 505hp in the Z06, so IMO they've got some room to play w/ as far as the top of the line Camaro rating. But I still think 425/435hp should be sufficient for most of us for an SS/Z28 wtf ever they call it.
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