RADEoN

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I got a friend that told me to make an offer on the set, and am curious as to what I should offer.

Anyone that runs these have any pro-tips?

shadyLS6

you got a cam/heads to use all that air? at least a 900$.. im guess it depends on how good a friend he is haha

RADEoN

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They're used, and I do intend on camming it, and the car already has a rich tune. I just figured if the price is right, it might be worth it to grab it up while its there. If not I'll let it slide.

The stock TB and LS6 intake worth anything?

itsslow98

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youll get around 400 for the ls6 intake and TB. THe 102 is a great intake and on a cammed car I would definetly do it. Just remember with the 102 you need different fuel rails, and there is a good chance when you do a cam no matter the size your gonna have to upgrade injectors. It should be good for 10-15rwhp on a cammed car.

BTW ive seen the FAST 102s on sale at vengeance and stuff for 799. I would offer like 800-850 on the pair unless it comes with the install kit(fuel rails etc)

NSSANE02

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If you're looking to put a cam in it wouldn't be a bad idea. You can get 300-350 for the LS6

RADEoN

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Wow what a great offer. He just offered to sell the used **** to me for 1100. What a clown.

GhettoTy

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I would offer 800 unless it comes with the rails, I think it would be worth it with a cam, should pick up 20rwhp. You can 300 for your manifold plus about 100 for the TB.

4doortypels

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i would go with a bbk intake manifold (85mm) and hand port your throttle body... a fast isnt worth 20 hp over an ls6 intake, a 102 on a stock 346 are any one here care about air velocity or just wanna have over sized parts??

cant wait for other guys to go thats metal and will heat soak, its an engine bay and the amount of power gained still exceeds stock...

or alternate idea, port and polish your throttle body, and clean up the ridges and the imperfections of your stock ls6 and match the runners to the heads... dont over port just clean up

keep in mind a the mass air is 85mm ... which is the smallest point, so in my book i would its pointless to step up...

Summerwolf

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Have you priced out the throttle bodies. You can buy a new intake for 799 but depending on how complete that used setup is it might be worth that price.

What throttle body does it come with? Install kit included? Etc etc...those are questions you'd have to figure out. Also was it ported by a vendor before install as well? All that adds in to determining how much that item is worth.

itsslow98

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horrible idea........and its been dyno proven a 102 only loses like 2-3hp at lower rpms but far exceeds the ls6 with a cam or heads/cam. If people werent price gouging the 90s/92s thats the best bet though.

And the stock 85mm maf will make 500rwhp before becoming a real restriction so dont waste your money.

4doortypels

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on a stock 346 motor... you have got to be kidding... you know if i took off the serp belt and pumped up the tires a i could trick a dyno to... as far as the the maf running out at 500 whp... a V wont make that power on stock bottom end with out a power adder. you go do your own dyno test and find out what it picks up, and not a vendor trying to sell you a product... i have a good friend who had full bolt ons and a cam in a g8 and swapping from a his factory 90 90 set up to a 102 102 he picked up a whoping 7 whp... that was great considering he only spent 1300, and my friend with an fbody stepped from an ls6 and ported stock throttle body and stepped to bbk ssi and a professional products 85 mm throttle body and dynoed out another 19whp and 14 tq... after selling the stock pieces he came out of pocket 75... so that is a hell of a gain per dollar... now hes stepped up to an 85mm ftp lid and slp maf and going with a slp bellow, and going to retune and post up new numbers...

1300 to make 7 hp 6tq
75 to make 19 hp 14tq

well go for the F.A.S.T. look at books that do independent testing, and youll see they arent all what they seem... if you are over 400 inches na you could benifit... but if not... dont waste your money

NSSANE02

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19 from LS6 to BBK? ...

itsslow98

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haha bench race much, my friend did this, my brothers uncles cousins sister did this.

if you said 19hp from an ls1 intake-bbk then i might believe it. 19hp from a ls6-bbk is a load of crap, but go ahead and throw that heat trap on top of your motor.

4doortypels

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you my friend...lol... you are the type of guy who would say i wouldnt toss on a whipple because it would heat soak...

dont worry he will be getting the car dynoed next week... and im sure he will post up the sheets and then you can see... i never said his car was stock either did i??? from the front, has an ftp 85 lid slp 85 maf slp bellows profession products ported throttle body bbk ssi intake on 1 3/4 coated headers, on a 6.0 lq9... added to where i said that 19 14 was WITH THE THROTTLE BODY...

toss whatever you want on your cars guys, and when you have a pretty engine bay with thousand and thousands of dollars in it, they will look great are car shows



a heat trap on your motor thats funny i hope you have a metal throttle body on a nylon intake, on your metal heads, on your metal valley cover, on your metal block... a root style will heat soak your car, but the pros out weight the cons... so what is your point that the intake may be 20 degress hotter?? whats next are you gonna argue intake air temps on people running nitrous???

98silvermaro

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dyno numbers will be up as soon as the car is tune... im sure it will pick up at the absolute least 15rwhp

my mods are listed in my sig for the old setup

new setup is the bbk intake, 85mm tb, slp maf, slp bellow, and 85mm ftp lid
ill make sure the intake is nice and hot for the people that freak out about crap being heat soaked and i will go back to the SAME dyno that i was at last month where i got my posted numbers in my sig

itsslow98

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cool, do yourself a favor, dyno it once, then drive it around for 30 minutes, and take it back at full temp.......bet you drop 10 of those "at least 15 hp" that you claim.

Have fun with it, were you one of the 16 people who said BBK>LS6? Against the 96 that said LS6>BBK

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-manifold.html


BTW, 4doorptls, get back in your own section
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-bench-racing-forum-150/

98silvermaro

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I will drive it straight onto the dyno cuz its gonna be a 45min drive to get there... there are several dynos the show the bbk (already heat soaked) picking up more power than the ls6 with the 80mm tb... not to mention mine is ported with a 85mm tb

4doortypels

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yes and look at the presidents approval rating...

i hope when you dyno your car that your hood is shut... you know that way it doesnt heat soak while you are on the rollers, i have a ported ls3 intake, find me someone that doesnt want a heat soaking twin screw supercharger to trade... ill even toss in a 1000 to heat soak the f*ck out of my motor

NSSANE02

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So... now you're comparing an aluminum intake manifold to a supercharger?

itsslow98

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Yea didnt you know that the % are the same.
Make 150rwhp, after heat soak, still make 130rwhp

Make 19rwhp, after heat soak make 5rwhp.


Duh simple math