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Old 03-19-2011, 04:11 PM
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Default Got the V dynotuned today.

I took the Caddy up to a local shop called AED last weekend to do a few pulls to see what type of power it was making, & what the A/F ratio was at. After we made 1 pull, I was very shocked to see that the car was only making 382 rwhp/363 rwtq SAE, & it had a EXTREMELY lean a/f ratio of 14.8 at WOT!!!!

Needless to say, the car was tuned incorrectly by a very popular shop that shall remain nameless, so it was time for a new tune. I then called Mark Romans who is a well known local LSX tuner here in Norcal & today he tuned the car at SVS R&D in Sacramento. On their superflow dyno with Mark's new tune, the car made a best pull of 420 rwhp/393 rwtq. I am very pleased with the numbers, & not only that, but the driveability is a million times better than it previously was with the old tune.

Just as a refresher, the only engine mods are a Flowtech Cam (228/232 duration. 111 LSA, 612 intake/600 exhaust), B&B 1 3/4 Longtubes, B&B 3" catless exhaust, 30lb Ford injectors, & a drop in K&N filter.

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Video of it on the dyno...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37f3uB1FVc
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where did they put the wideband? that can sometimes skew the afr reading. just saying.
wats ur afr now?
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where did they put the wideband? that can sometimes skew the afr reading. just saying.
wats ur afr now?
The pull at the other shop was with the wideband in the tailpipe, but even then, at what the A/F ratio was at, it would still be lean if it was in the 02 bung.

The new a/f ratio is 12.7-12.8 across the board.
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ya 14.8 is insane lean for sure, good to see its all straightened out
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Nice numbers.
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ya 14.8 is insane lean for sure, good to see its all straightened out
Yes it is. I was pretty surprised a reputible shop would tune a car so poorly.

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Nice numbers.
Thanks....
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Very nice numbers! That is what I was expecting out of mine but I came up 30hp and tq short..haha. I'm still working that out.
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Nice numbers, I gotta ask though, why go from 28.8lb injectors to 30lbers?
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Good numbers.

Just curious, why leave the shop nameless? If they can't tune and/or won't stand behind their work, in my opinion post it up so others don't make the same mistake.
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Originally Posted by Moze
Just curious, why leave the shop nameless? If they can't tune and/or won't stand behind their work, in my opinion post it up so others don't make the same mistake.
This.
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Originally Posted by JJSimon904
Very nice numbers! That is what I was expecting out of mine but I came up 30hp and tq short..haha. I'm still working that out.
Thanks. What type of dyno did you get your numbers on?

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Nice numbers, I gotta ask though, why go from 28.8lb injectors to 30lbers?
Thanks. I'm no expert on the subject, but I was told by the tuner, & countless others that GM cars run a higher fuel pressure than Ford, so 30# Ford injectors actually =36# injectors on a GM. The current injectors are only at 70% duty cycle, while the stockers were maxed at this power level so they worked out great.

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Good numbers.

Just curious, why leave the shop nameless? If they can't tune and/or won't stand behind their work, in my opinion post it up so others don't make the same mistake.
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This.
Thanks. I would rather not bash any shop on the net because I personally didn't do business with them since I purchased the car with their tune already in it. I thought the car ran great, but once I put it on a dyno, I noticed the tune & a/f ratio was all out of whack? I called the shop & they offered to take a look at it, but if I needed a retune, it would cost me $200. Plus, its over 100 miles from my house & I really didn't want to drive that far untuned with new plugs & larger injectors. If anybody wants to know the name of the shop feel free to PM me & I will gladly give you the info.
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Originally Posted by EPIK
Thanks. What type of dyno did you get your numbers on?



Thanks. I'm no expert on the subject, but I was told by the tuner, & countless others that GM cars run a higher fuel pressure than Ford, so 30# Ford injectors actually =36# injectors on a GM. The current injectors are only at 70% duty cycle, while the stockers were maxed at this power level so they worked out great.





Thanks. I would rather not bash any shop on the net because I personally didn't do business with them since I purchased the car with their tune already in it. I thought the car ran great, but once I put it on a dyno, I noticed the tune & a/f ratio was all out of whack? I called the shop & they offered to take a look at it, but if I needed a retune, it would cost me $200. Plus, its over 100 miles from my house & I really didn't want to drive that far untuned with new plugs & larger injectors. If anybody wants to know the name of the shop feel free to PM me & I will gladly give you the info.
Ah makes sense, rated at 30lbs for fords which dont take the 60psi of fuel pressure the LSX do. Should leave you some wiggle room to do a FAST and not have to do injectors then.
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Was a good session! Got the tuned sorted out and it made the numbers it should have been making from the go, not to mention the AFR!!!

Now come over and help me get this diff in!!! Lol
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Nice numbers indeed! I'd be extremely happy with that!
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Ah makes sense, rated at 30lbs for fords which dont take the 60psi of fuel pressure the LSX do. Should leave you some wiggle room to do a FAST and not have to do injectors then.
Maybe one day I will do a FAST, but for now I am totally happy with the car so I'm gonna drive the SOB LOL.

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Was a good session! Got the tuned sorted out and it made the numbers it should have been making from the go, not to mention the AFR!!!

Now come over and help me get this diff in!!! Lol
Thanks man. I was scared that the car was gonna be another disappointment, but I'm VERY happy with the tune. My bad, I would come over to help but my folks are in town & I haven't seen em in 4 months.

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Nice numbers indeed! I'd be extremely happy with that!
Thanks... Believe me, I am...
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If it was tuned in another state with different pressure and altitude, then that alone can really impact the tune.
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the front 02's were disabled and was running in closed loop at all times. 16.8 A/F part throttle. It was tuned 100 miles away from where we live, with almost identical altitudes.

No excuse for that ish.... Lol
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
the front 02's were disabled and was running in closed loop at all times. 16.8 A/F part throttle. It was tuned 100 miles away from where we live, with almost identical altitudes.

No excuse for that ish.... Lol
Oh wow, yea, thats pretty fd up! lol
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its power figures like this and the results that stage up had that make me consider going the cam route


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