raven154

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Edit: ^^^^^ he makes a good point and is right on track.

I think those numbers are a little lofty personally. Generally only a big cam is gonna give a 50hp bump and generally the big cams are only good for top end. Bigger is not always better. I think you would be happier with a smaller cam with less peak hp and more power under the curve. If you talk to Patrick G, he is a vendor on here I believe, all you do is tell him why you want the car to do and he will give you a custom grind number that will be suited to what you want. There are some good grinds out there but for a heavy car like hat we have, you don't want a cam that makes nothing but peak hp.

babrown18

do u have any kinda contact info from patrick g?

babrown18

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raven154

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I'll try and find something.

wcryan

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cam is already grinded by a guy that used to work for comp cams for 10 years like I said, so I think it should be a good grind because I told him I was going to do my stock heads too. But hey. If I dont get the outcome I want, I'll just sell the stock heads and get some aftermarket that do work we'll.

siggyfreud

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I think you'll be happy . Mods that increase or make airflow more efficient tend to build on themselves, so your notion that a cam + heads SHOULD make more power than adding the power of having heads or cam alone is correct. How much extra you get varies wildly so there really is no way to say.

If you're getting 30 from a cam, and 20-30 from heads, it would be reasonable to hope for 70 when both are combined. Thats what I'm getting at. But there really are no guarantees unless you're installing proven combinations.

wcryan

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understandable. so if your going with the lower end of 70 combined and people are getting 30 out of headers then I should be good for 100

CTSVBiggie

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So confusing...

So on a LS2... you can buy the following products and they will work and make what kind of power?

L92 heads and a LSa blower? what else would be needed? This idea makes me all funny in the pants(i LOVE boost).

raven154

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All the belt spacing would have to be addressed since the LSA uses a dedicated blower drive. All the blumbing for the intake and intercooler would need work. Obviously it's not a bolt in type of thing but would be doable with enough time and money. Just like anything is lol

CTSVBiggie

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Time and money are two things im trying to keep to a minmum. Dayum it. Where is the 3000 dollar procharger kit i imagined would be available? Seriously 6000 + for a roots type is STUPID reDONKulous.

raven154

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For who wanted to know, Pat G's is an admin and here is a thread with a reply from him. Just pm him. He knows his stuff.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-question.html

wcryan

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I need to find my cam specs..... it's on a piece of paper with the cam in the box

wcryan

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so these are the specs of the cam that I am seeing on the sheet. I told the guy I want some really agressive for the street, but not something that sounds like it's gonna die when its idling. Lemme know what u guys think

Comp Cam
Gross Valve Lift .566 Intake .568 exhaust
Duration @ .050 intake 222 exhaust 224
Lobe Lift .3330 intake .3340 Exhaust
.006 tappet lift 275 intake 277 exhaust
Lobe Separation 112.0

raven154

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That cam will be lopey at idle with the LSA being that low, otherwise, it really isn't radical at all. It's actually pretty small. But that's not always a bad thing. Like I said, bigger is not always better.

My cam isn't a blower cam but these are the specs on it and bumps pretty good.


228/232 .588/.574 112 LSA

CTSVBiggie

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cams still confuse me...

On a LS2 with intake/headers/exhuast what would be a great cam for that setup that isnt a full on wont idle with the AC on race type cam?

I always run 93 but want to stay semi safe as well.

I know its a oxy moron asking for a safe smooth idling power making cam. but I assume somewhere there is a healthy mix of everything.

raven154

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Talk to pat g. The link I posted in this thread has one of his post. Just pm him. I would not go lower on than 112 on the LSA for a street car. I had a 111 and it would not idle well with the ac on. Enough time with the tuner it might have but it would take some one that is good to get it right.

whisler151

Wow, that is not what I was expecting. For " I want some really agressive for the street, but not something that sounds like it's gonna die when its idling" I would have picked something like the Magic Stick 4 with a 112lsa or at least a Torquer v.2. The cam that he picked out for you is rather small. Others have gone with a cam like that and picked up about 20 to the wheels where you can pick up double that with a mid sized cam.

Check out these cams...

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/cate...MID=9&catid=44

whisler151

Mine is a 111lsa with some advancement and is not bad daily driving at all.

I too had the problem idling with the AC on but that was easily fixed in the tune. Something about the torque management part of the tune that determines which accessory takes what away from the power of the motor.

SoCA04V

I'm running a Patrick G speced cam (222/226 597/598 +3 115LSA). I specified I wanted more power under the curve, than total HP numbers. If I did it all over I'd prob go bigger, but it makes good power throughout the RPM range. THis has a small lump at idle, just enough to know it's not stock, but will likely still pass smog. With this cam and stock heads it only gained me about 20-25hp over stock. I am running stock manifolds and high flow cats, but if I step up to long tubes I will likely pick up an additional 20rwhp. This is on an LS6 for comparison.

raven154

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Yeah it may have just been the guy I used. Didn't have a lot of LSx experience. Still looking for someone good to do FI.