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Old 04-09-2012 | 06:44 PM
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i recently installed the passanger side gforce axle on my 05 and didnt notice any imporovement... thought it was my tires so i got a new set and still have plenty of wheelhop.. I was under the impression that people had good luck with this axle. what else should/can i do?
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mail me the old tires if they're in good shape, i'll let you know if maybe you got bad tires.
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Originally Posted by RADEoN
mail me the old tires if they're in good shape, i'll let you know if maybe you got bad tires.
lol


i just installed both and they got rid of a lot of wheel hop but not all of it....
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mail me the old tires if they're in good shape, i'll let you know if maybe you got bad tires.
lol sure i can mail em to you... but first paypal me $250 lol

but seriously ill post em for sale.. they are like new continetals extreme dw
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lol sure i can mail em to you... but first paypal me $250 lol

but seriously ill post em for sale.. they are like new continetals extreme dw
Did you not like the dw ??
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its not that i didnt like them... i thought that they may be part of the wheelhop problem.. (and they deffinetly were not) plus i had a smokin deal on a set of 4 tires, so i jumped on it..
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Have you changed the front diff bushing? If not that can be a big improvement.

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Shouldve gone with Hendrix.
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The diff was recently changed by the dealer and I believe the bushing was replaced. I went with the gforce because I've read good things about it... I'm not gonna buy products from every company to see which works better. Do you guys think the bmr bushings would help along with the axle?
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Shouldve gone with Hendrix.
+1 based on what I have read.
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I have a Hendrix axle, and there's still some wheel hop, to be quite honest. It'll be for sale here shortly.
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I had the full G-force axles for about 15-20 miles, 95+% of wheel hop was gone. I have heard of guys blowing up stock inner cvs with just the bars.
That said, it would help to put the diff bushing from max in, be prepared for a little road noise, not bad though. Also once somenone makes some better rear tie rods than the hard to adjust BMR pieces, then do that and get your rear toe set to almost zero. The flimsy stockers dont really help keep the tires from pointing in on acceleration and then the tires are trying to walk over themselves.

FYI, right after I put my axles in and was headed a few miles down the road to Firestone for a lifetime alignment (gotta love the one time buy) it was raining and under partial throttle where i would have had wheel hop, therre was absolutely none. Once at the shop I realized why, the rear toe was toed out 1.5 or better on each side. now I cant keep it like that, but changing from the toe in to toe out definitely helped, since when the alignment was done, the wheel hop was evident under a little more throttle in the rain. I had my camber brought to just -0.5 and the toe set to 0.0 but could not continue driving the car due to rear end noise.

Bottom line, there is more than one thing to do to get rid of the wheel hop. I hope this information helps you make your decisions.
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Great info, thanks for sharing! I've been looking at axels, but I've read the same things. Nothing cures it 100% in the V1s (aside from a solid rear).
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Who blew up a stock inner CV...lol. Thanx for ur stocks by the way... Think i am going to move to an 8.8 with a friend here shortly...
That should kill the wheel hop all together.


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I had the full G-force axles for about 15-20 miles, 95+% of wheel hop was gone. I have heard of guys blowing up stock inner cvs with just the bars.
That said, it would help to put the diff bushing from max in, be prepared for a little road noise, not bad though. Also once somenone makes some better rear tie rods than the hard to adjust BMR pieces, then do that and get your rear toe set to almost zero. The flimsy stockers dont really help keep the tires from pointing in on acceleration and then the tires are trying to walk over themselves.

FYI, right after I put my axles in and was headed a few miles down the road to Firestone for a lifetime alignment (gotta love the one time buy) it was raining and under partial throttle where i would have had wheel hop, therre was absolutely none. Once at the shop I realized why, the rear toe was toed out 1.5 or better on each side. now I cant keep it like that, but changing from the toe in to toe out definitely helped, since when the alignment was done, the wheel hop was evident under a little more throttle in the rain. I had my camber brought to just -0.5 and the toe set to 0.0 but could not continue driving the car due to rear end noise.

Bottom line, there is more than one thing to do to get rid of the wheel hop. I hope this information helps you make your decisions.
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Originally Posted by NOLAG05
Who blew up a stock inner CV...lol. Thanx for ur stocks by the way... Think i am going to move to an 8.8 with a friend here shortly...
That should kill the wheel hop all together.
I blew out my inner CV with G-Force axles but it was my fault. I spun the tires on rough pavement.
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i guess alignment is the next thing to do.. but i really wanna try the BMR cradle bushings for some reason..
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Why did you only replace only one axle? I would put both axles in. You also should consider the cradle bushing as they help eliminate a lot of flex.

I have nearly no wheel hop at all.
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it's the design, it changes the harmonics and it reduces hop.
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Originally Posted by 9t8z28
I blew out my inner CV with G-Force axles but it was my fault. I spun the tires on rough pavement.

How does that make it your fault? Do they come with a disclaimer that says don't spin the tires with these axels, lol?
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I only did one axle because obviously it was cheaper. Lol.


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