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Old 06-15-2012, 09:38 PM
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Default ms3 or torquer v3. which one?

Stuck between these 2 cams. just drive the car on weekends. car gets driven pretty hard. and want the most bang for my buck.

Give some opinions people.
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i have the ms3, and it makes awesome power about 3300+ RPM.
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VRX5 and it's just slightly smaller than the MS3 and make power from 2100-6800. Another option to consider. Great cam for our cars.
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MS3 has been proven time and time again, and down the road if you decide to it loves the bottle.
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Both are great choices with the Torquer V3 being more tame with better midrange and low end power than the MS3. The MS3 is an awesome choice, but is definitely considered a max effort cam, and needs the supporting mods to perform to its potential. Makes great peak power and pulls like a freight train, but sacrifices the power down low to do it. If max effort is what your looking for with a super aggressive idle the MS3 will no doubt get the job done.
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If your dead set on those 2 Cams I would say ms3 if your gonna beat it like a red headed step child.

Honesty though I would say have one Custom spec'd its the same price and dealing with Pat.G was awesome. His cams have exceded all my expectations and goals. Needless to say no more off the shelf cams for me

Btw here's his website:
http://guerragroup.com/camshaft_help.htm
Old 06-18-2012, 11:41 AM
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Is this what you call "custom spec'd"???


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I have the Torquer v3 from Texas Speed in my 2004 V LS6 and love it so far, have yet to get it on the Dyno but hopefully will in the next two weeks. It may be milder than most but it's still a beast IMO.
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Originally Posted by 07CTS-V
Is this what you call "custom spec'd"???


Whats the rest of that conversation??? That does no good I can take a screen shot asking what about those 2 cams and what he think of them. If you wanna play screen shots I can send you all my emails asking stuff because that proves nothing.

I've had him spec me out 2 recently and both were goal's to make 500 rwhp. The off the shelf ms4, tsunami, megadeath couldn't do it I already tried. All I changed were the cams and both cars made 500,and you could daily both. I'm not saying off the shelfs are bad but if you want every ounce of power out of your setup then custom is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by 07CTS-V
Is this what you call "custom spec'd"???


Did you pay him to custom spec you a cam, or did you just ask him for his advice? This email response looks like you just shot him an email and he replied because he's a gentleman.
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He prob just asked him, pat is a very good knowledgeable guy, cts you can get that bs screen shot out of here, noone knows what else was said, honest that just made you look like an *******
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Originally Posted by BOBS99SS
He prob just asked him, pat is a very good knowledgeable guy, cts you can get that bs screen shot out of here, noone knows what else was said, honest that just made you look like an *******
x2. It is really sleazy to post personal communication assumed to be private.
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Yeah, I probably should not have posted that. No doubt Patrick is a good man and definitely knows his ****. That's why I recommended him to this person who gave him all the specs of his car. I wasn't trying to say that his advice was bad by any means. I'm just saying that your advice to have a 'custom spec' cam isn't always the best route. Even Patrick recommends 'off the shelf' cams for certain applications. Even he isn't a fortune teller and can't tell you if another cam is going to make 2.7 more rwHp. There are just too many variables.

But, I am wondering....Nevermind. Lol

To the op - I installed Radeon's MS3 cam along with TSP heads. It pulled really hard just as he stated. I had a cam in my old LS2 that was more of a low end torque cam. His car was no less fun to drive and absolutely daily drivable.

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Thanks guys. really helping me out. more towards the ms3 im thinking now
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I have the MS3. Car runs great for my dd. Still gets 26 mph hwy. Power hits hard at 3000 rpms, and doesnt run out of breath. It loves to be in higher rpms. In order for it to have good street manners, u must have a good tuner tune it. Tuning it for wot is obviously easy.
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Originally Posted by STAGEUP
I have the MS3. Car runs great for my dd. Still gets 26 mph hwy.
With the MS3 you can go up to 26 MPH on the freeway? Damn, that's fast!

lol
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Assuming he meant mpg - at what speed? No way a cammed V is doing 26mpg at 75mph+ Maybe at 55-60.
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At 65-75 mph. I have my car tuned to the t
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Timing at cruise and a/f? In the very high 30s and 15.5 - 23mpg is a perfectly straight/flat road for 3 hours. Cats?

Hell my wrx barely does 26mpg at 75mph.
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Originally Posted by STAGEUP
At 65-75 mph. I have my car tuned to the t
26 mpg with a nitrous tune?


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