steering rack failure
12-08-2013, 04:35 PM
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I asked the question on the other forums and the consensus was no problem. Now that I see its size on the mount I worry that being unsupported the metal will fatigue from the vibration and separate the top of the cooler.
12-08-2013, 05:50 PM
#23
I had the new PS cooler sitting in a box so, today, I went ahead and upgraded mine. Super easy - well under an hour to do it. My only note:
The inlet/outlet on the new cooler are slightly smaller in diameter than the stock cooler had. I didn't have confidence that the stock hose clamps would seal very well, so I changed mine to worm gear clamps. We'll see how that goes.
The inlet/outlet on the new cooler are slightly smaller in diameter than the stock cooler had. I didn't have confidence that the stock hose clamps would seal very well, so I changed mine to worm gear clamps. We'll see how that goes.
12-08-2013, 06:12 PM
#24
I got the one in this thread. Mine groaned when it got cold. I topped the fluid and it went away. Hopefully the bigger cooler and fluid with stop leak saves it.
It is a 2005 and only has 31k. I'm working on changing all the fluids in the next year. I can't tell if the brake fluid is blue or just black. Pretty sure the previous owner barely drove it. Had it from 08-12 and only put 5k on it.
It is a 2005 and only has 31k. I'm working on changing all the fluids in the next year. I can't tell if the brake fluid is blue or just black. Pretty sure the previous owner barely drove it. Had it from 08-12 and only put 5k on it.
12-09-2013, 03:42 PM
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It's fine. I've probably put 20k miles on mine and maybe 12ish track days or more. No problems. As mentioned, it's really light.
12-09-2013, 04:13 PM
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So far I ordered a new power steering line - the high pressure one. I also ordered new inner tie rods. Along with having the steering rack rebuilt, I'm going to explore my options having the ps pump rebuilt as well.
I'm not sure yet but I think Turn One can reduce the pressure by augmenting the ps pump which would add more driver feedback with handling. I believe this would also reduce that silky smooth effortless parking lot turning though.
If I can get something that improves handling that doesn't feel like a 'race car' and reduce my temps I'll be very happy. Otherwise, all stock going back in with the exception of the massive ps cooler.
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12-10-2013, 11:28 AM
#30
The silicone hose for the cooler is in good shape but I have replacement for that when I give it a more detailed check. The Fluidyne ps cooler I have is equipped with barbs so would still have to clamp it on there with a worm gear style clamp.
12-10-2013, 12:30 PM
#31
You should add that to your quote signature. Btw, gimmie my shifter!
So far I ordered a new power steering line - the high pressure one. I also ordered new inner tie rods. Along with having the steering rack rebuilt, I'm going to explore my options having the ps pump rebuilt as well.
I'm not sure yet but I think Turn One can reduce the pressure by augmenting the ps pump which would add more driver feedback with handling. I believe this would also reduce that silky smooth effortless parking lot turning though.
If I can get something that improves handling that doesn't feel like a 'race car' and reduce my temps I'll be very happy. Otherwise, all stock going back in with the exception of the massive ps cooler.
So far I ordered a new power steering line - the high pressure one. I also ordered new inner tie rods. Along with having the steering rack rebuilt, I'm going to explore my options having the ps pump rebuilt as well.
I'm not sure yet but I think Turn One can reduce the pressure by augmenting the ps pump which would add more driver feedback with handling. I believe this would also reduce that silky smooth effortless parking lot turning though.
If I can get something that improves handling that doesn't feel like a 'race car' and reduce my temps I'll be very happy. Otherwise, all stock going back in with the exception of the massive ps cooler.
We got word that the parts just shipped out. This is the 2nd time they have told us that.
This will be the last run of shifters.
The next batch will be a group buy as we don't see that much interest so far. With that said, there have been a TON of tire-kickers.
12-10-2013, 10:07 PM
#32
I jumped on your shifter because it was the 'right' time for me.
01-07-2014, 12:17 AM
#35
Ugh. Another late night.
For those of you who that are just tuning in, I had one of the hoses connected to the Fluidyne FHP-10029 blow off as I was pulling up to a stoplight. Thinking that it might have been a fluke, I reconnected the line and it happened again shortly thereafter.
A few hours ago, I replaced the OEM hose clips with worm gear clamps. Result: the feed line exploded right next to the worm gear clamp. I took the Fluidyne FHP-10029 off the car, and found that it was partially clogged. It's been below freezing out here for a while, so I figured that there might have been water in my power steering fluid and that it froze. After letting the cooler warm up inside the house, it seemed to start flowing again, but I was unwilling to reinstall it because the thin, paralleled tubes would likely be susceptible to the same thing again.
It may be hard to see the split, but believe me, when the system is pressurized, this opening was gushing fluid
Fortunately, when I bought the FHP-10029, I also bought a slightly nicer (7000 series) cooler. Originally, I thought I'd use it as a cheap way to help prototype an improved, hybrid brake/PS cooling duct in the foglamp area. But later on, I found out that the Derale 9000 and 10000 series coolers would be far more effective for a given size, and support real, NPT/AN style connectors that can handle very high pressures. So I stuck the Derale 13103 in storage for a rainy day (or night, as it turned out).
If I wasn't crunched for time, I would have purchased a Derale 9000 or 10000 series cooler, which have better mounting brackets, but the included hardware was more than sufficient to very securely attach the cooler to the OEM power steering bracket. I'm going outside right now to install it on the car and test the system, so I'll probably have more for you soon...
Front side
Back side
For those of you who that are just tuning in, I had one of the hoses connected to the Fluidyne FHP-10029 blow off as I was pulling up to a stoplight. Thinking that it might have been a fluke, I reconnected the line and it happened again shortly thereafter.
A few hours ago, I replaced the OEM hose clips with worm gear clamps. Result: the feed line exploded right next to the worm gear clamp. I took the Fluidyne FHP-10029 off the car, and found that it was partially clogged. It's been below freezing out here for a while, so I figured that there might have been water in my power steering fluid and that it froze. After letting the cooler warm up inside the house, it seemed to start flowing again, but I was unwilling to reinstall it because the thin, paralleled tubes would likely be susceptible to the same thing again.
It may be hard to see the split, but believe me, when the system is pressurized, this opening was gushing fluid
Fortunately, when I bought the FHP-10029, I also bought a slightly nicer (7000 series) cooler. Originally, I thought I'd use it as a cheap way to help prototype an improved, hybrid brake/PS cooling duct in the foglamp area. But later on, I found out that the Derale 9000 and 10000 series coolers would be far more effective for a given size, and support real, NPT/AN style connectors that can handle very high pressures. So I stuck the Derale 13103 in storage for a rainy day (or night, as it turned out).
If I wasn't crunched for time, I would have purchased a Derale 9000 or 10000 series cooler, which have better mounting brackets, but the included hardware was more than sufficient to very securely attach the cooler to the OEM power steering bracket. I'm going outside right now to install it on the car and test the system, so I'll probably have more for you soon...
Front side
Back side
01-07-2014, 08:56 AM
#36
Ugh. Another late night.
For those of you who that are just tuning in, I had one of the hoses connected to the Fluidyne FHP-10029 blow off as I was pulling up to a stoplight. Thinking that it might have been a fluke, I reconnected the line and it happened again shortly thereafter.
A few hours ago, I replaced the OEM hose clips with worm gear clamps. Result: the feed line exploded right next to the worm gear clamp. I took the Fluidyne FHP-10029 off the car, and found that it was partially clogged. It's been below freezing out here for a while, so I figured that there might have been water in my power steering fluid and that it froze. After letting the cooler warm up inside the house, it seemed to start flowing again, but I was unwilling to reinstall it because the thin, paralleled tubes would likely be susceptible to the same thing again.
It may be hard to see the split, but believe me, when the system is pressurized, this opening was gushing fluid
Fortunately, when I bought the FHP-10029, I also bought a slightly nicer Derale 13103 (7000 series) cooler. Originally, I thought I'd use it as a cheap way to help prototype an improved, hybrid brake/PS cooling duct in the foglamp area. But later on, I found out that the Derale 9000 and 10000 series coolers would be far more effective for a given size, and support real, NPT/AN style connectors that can handle very high pressures. So I stuck the Derale 13103 in storage for a rainy day (or night, as it turned out).
If I wasn't crunched for time, I would have purchased a Derale 9000 or 10000 series cooler, which have better mounting brackets, but the included hardware was more than sufficient to very securely attach the cooler to the OEM power steering bracket. I'm going outside right now to install it on the car and test the system, so I'll probably have more for you soon...
Front side
Back side
For those of you who that are just tuning in, I had one of the hoses connected to the Fluidyne FHP-10029 blow off as I was pulling up to a stoplight. Thinking that it might have been a fluke, I reconnected the line and it happened again shortly thereafter.
A few hours ago, I replaced the OEM hose clips with worm gear clamps. Result: the feed line exploded right next to the worm gear clamp. I took the Fluidyne FHP-10029 off the car, and found that it was partially clogged. It's been below freezing out here for a while, so I figured that there might have been water in my power steering fluid and that it froze. After letting the cooler warm up inside the house, it seemed to start flowing again, but I was unwilling to reinstall it because the thin, paralleled tubes would likely be susceptible to the same thing again.
It may be hard to see the split, but believe me, when the system is pressurized, this opening was gushing fluid
Fortunately, when I bought the FHP-10029, I also bought a slightly nicer Derale 13103 (7000 series) cooler. Originally, I thought I'd use it as a cheap way to help prototype an improved, hybrid brake/PS cooling duct in the foglamp area. But later on, I found out that the Derale 9000 and 10000 series coolers would be far more effective for a given size, and support real, NPT/AN style connectors that can handle very high pressures. So I stuck the Derale 13103 in storage for a rainy day (or night, as it turned out).
If I wasn't crunched for time, I would have purchased a Derale 9000 or 10000 series cooler, which have better mounting brackets, but the included hardware was more than sufficient to very securely attach the cooler to the OEM power steering bracket. I'm going outside right now to install it on the car and test the system, so I'll probably have more for you soon...
Front side
Back side
01-07-2014, 10:15 AM
#37
yeah, this seals it for me that I'm not going to keep the Fluidyne FHP-10029. even before running it, I was nervous about the connections on it... now the question is to AN or not to AN? and whether to run something more like AFCO 37600 so I'm not blocked by my external oil cooler mounted up front...
01-07-2014, 10:22 AM
#38
Good news and bad news: the cooler works perfectly. If anything, the steering wheel feels lighter than before, although that might be the placebo effect. Bad news is that I hit a patch of ice and curbed one of my Forgestars. I wrote them an email, asking whether they do repairs or if I'll have to buy a whole new set.
01-07-2014, 10:41 AM
#39
yeah, this seals it for me that I'm not going to keep the Fluidyne FHP-10029. even before running it, I was nervous about the connections on it... now the question is to AN or not to AN? and whether to run something more like AFCO 37600 so I'm not blocked by my external oil cooler mounted up front...
For example, you could have -AN fittings on the cooler but if the differential pressure is 'enough' it could blow off the rack or the power steering pump.
I think going with -AN fittings is an added expense that is really not needed but if the cooler you are going with requires it...go with it. You can tie it in with the existing plumbing.
Here is an example I posted on the duplicate thread in the Caddy forum where -AN fittings were used:
Darkman (no idea where he went) used a different cooler. Take a look in this thread:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ml#post1958019
It's pricey but if you want something more robust and nice AN fittings...this is the way to go.
Fluidyne DB 30216
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ml#post1958019
It's pricey but if you want something more robust and nice AN fittings...this is the way to go.
Fluidyne DB 30216