2004 CTS-V: Track results inside.
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OP you have worlds of improvement yet with this car. Looking at your coil over thread my recommendation would be:
CS Trailing arms with ballistic joint
Trailing arm bushings
Cradle bushings
Rear upper control arm bushings
(All bushings should be the 95a harder ones)
and the heim joint CS toe rods.
(total approw 830$ with out your new found discount!)
That should get rid of A LOT of hop.
If you want more tire you can have your wheels widened to 10" (been done before) which fit with the CS trailing arms, and a 295 drag radial. 305's have been done with a 5mm wheel spacer and trailing arms along with rolled fenders, so there is that. Then there is the guy who did some major mods to his fender wells.....I think LS247 found him....not sure what tires he got to fit.
Either way, that 265 seems to hook ok. Get rid of the hop and you should cut a 1.6 60' easy.
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OP you have worlds of improvement yet with this car. Looking at your coil over thread my recommendation would be:
CS Trailing arms with ballistic joint
Trailing arm bushings
Cradle bushings
Rear upper control arm bushings
(All bushings should be the 95a harder ones)
and the heim joint CS toe rods.
(total approw 830$ with out your new found discount!)
That should get rid of A LOT of hop.
If you want more tire you can have your wheels widened to 10" (been done before) which fit with the CS trailing arms, and a 295 drag radial. 305's have been done with a 5mm wheel spacer and trailing arms along with rolled fenders, so there is that. Then there is the guy who did some major mods to his fender wells.....I think LS247 found him....not sure what tires he got to fit.
Either way, that 265 seems to hook ok. Get rid of the hop and you should cut a 1.6 60' easy.
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I'm thinking that's about as "squared away" as it get's. And if he doesn't drag his feet for too long there will be plenty of season left to beat on it.
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Our 8.8 differential swap also reduces wheel hop to an absolute minimum. Many factors come in to play when "wheel hop" is discussed, such as road conditions, tire choice, and the condition of every rubber component in the drive train. The CTS is in fact a Cadillac, passenger comfort was a high priority when these vehicles were designed. The soft rubber bushings through-out these cars are great for isolating road noise from the cabin, but are not a good choice when performance is the objective. Bottom line: the engineers working for Cadillac had to choose between customer comfort and clutch-dumping acceleration, then the marketing department got involved, they said "we'll sell more cars if they're comfy-quiet". So that's how CTS wheel hop was born......THE END.
So, if I understand this correctly, the 8.8 swap is just a piece of the puzzle to solve the wheel hop riddle?
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The 8.8 is a readily available, relatively light, inexpensive, considerably strong replacement for the V1 that is as close to drop-in as you can get. The benefit of the 8.8 is it's strength; while the axles used in the swap help with hop, it won't eliminate it; the 8.8 simply assures you that your differential will *survive* the hop.
To stop hopping you need to stop the cradle from moving under load.
If the differential wasn't made of glass there would be no reason to have an 8.8 replacement option available.
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Keep in mind guys. These cradle/subframe bushings have 117k miles on them. I would never have imagined they would cause that type of violent hop, orherwise they'd already gave been replaced. but it's a learning process. You are literally looking at this cars very first passes ever. There is a lot to work on and improve. Thats why you test. This is all foreign and new to me. In no way are we dealing with a finished product. Far from it
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UPS says the rest of the parts will be here today for Brians 8.8.
I'm thinking that's about as "squared away" as it get's. And if he doesn't drag his feet for too long there will be plenty of season left to beat on it.
These are good times to buy stock in Mickey Thompson
When the subframe moves as much as ours... Its hard to stop the hop... Can't stop the hop... Lol rhyme haha
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I doubt he is going to drag his feet. He's probably ready to abuse that thing like a cheap hooker.
That statement is confusing. Yes it will stop a lot of wheel hop but it is nearly impossible to stop it completely. Any kind of suspension. Or movement will induce hop. So the give in the bushings, the give in the suspension are huge variables. The do kind of get around it by saying the catch all about the road, tires, suspension and bushings... Etc. You out enough power through anything with a suspension and it will hop. Even a solid axle.
When the subframe moves as much as ours... Its hard to stop the hop... Lol rhyme haha
trailingarmsvideo - YouTube
That statement is confusing. Yes it will stop a lot of wheel hop but it is nearly impossible to stop it completely. Any kind of suspension. Or movement will induce hop. So the give in the bushings, the give in the suspension are huge variables. The do kind of get around it by saying the catch all about the road, tires, suspension and bushings... Etc. You out enough power through anything with a suspension and it will hop. Even a solid axle.
When the subframe moves as much as ours... Its hard to stop the hop... Lol rhyme haha
trailingarmsvideo - YouTube
That would make sense, so until the cradle bushings are addressed, the wheel hop will always be present.