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Excuse the ignorance. Some of you replied to my thread about the modded V I'm looking at, and I appreciate all the input/answers I've received on this site. I'm an enthusiast with very little aftermarket experience - so again - please excuse the Newbiness.

The particular V I'm looking has a dealer installed Procharger.

* Is a ProCharger different than a Maggie (both just brand names of the same thing)?
* What are the differences (typical gains, efficiency, cost, etc)?
* Pros and cons of each?
* Other FI options?

Any other FI info, links, etc would be greatly appreciated.

EPP

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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=38
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=33
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/movies/ctsv3.mpg
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/movies/ctsv4.mpg
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/movies/ctsv5.mpg

Check out the CTS-V's above in which we installed our ATI ProCharger pckage that we developed. An ATI ProCharger is a centrifical type of supercharger, and a maggie is a positive displacement (Roots) type. Bob

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Centrifical superchargers are generally considered the more efficient of the two, right?

I'm not asking you to pimp your gear, but why should I install your package instead of a Maggie?

EPP

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I don't mind pimping. lol...

The ATI ProChargers run cooler, and produce more mid range and upper horsepower, right where you need it.

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=438
ProCharger FAQ's.

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=440
Want to know why an ATI ProCharger is better? Bob

MCasano1

Based solely on my limited research and information - the Procharger will have more potential, be more efficient (for power) and not get heat soaked so bad. I'm planning to put one on my car.

]<ing

So is Procharger a brand name, or a TYPE of supercharger?

mr2guru

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Brand name. Similar to vortech in design. Basically a belt driven turbocharger.

zeusrotty

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what would that cost?

Tony Orlando

Centrifugal Superchargers are more thermally efficient, but the boost builds exponentially in relation to crank RPMs (therefore your boost peak is right at redline). They provide greater mid and top end power, as opposed to the Roots type which comes on hard but runs out of breath in the upper RPMs.

With the prodigious amount of torque this car comes with from the factory, I'd go with the Procharger for several reasons:

-Easier on the diff
-Easier to launch
-Less heat soak
-Cleaner install
-Better top end

Hope that helps.

CTSV05

I've seen and been in cars with both, I like the looks and power of a centrifugal blower, nicer look under the hood imo.

gangbang malloy

as for forced induction you have 4 options
1. roots type - magnacharger/eaton
2. centrifugal - procharger/vortech/paxton/powerdyne
3. twin screw - whipple/kenne bell
4. turbocharger - turbonetics/ aps etc.

]<ing

There are turbo kits available for the V?

]<ing

Very much so.

Thanks for the input.

]<ing

So Centrifical superchargers are most like a turbo than any of the other types of blowers - building power with rpms? I've never owned a FI car if you couldn't tell.

Have you heard of any of these dealer installed packages? I'm assuming a little extra tuning from a reputable shop would be in order.

EPP

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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...html?item=1062
Our ATI ProCharger D-1SC CTS-V kit

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=434
Our completely installed price for the ATI ProCharger D-1SC. Bob

04ctsvfl

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408, 422, 427, 434 would be much sicker, impressive, sound better, more manly (lol), more true to the sport(muscle cars), and probably make more streetable power IMO then boosting the n/a engine of n/a engines......

zeusrotty

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Not as cost effective...

04ctsvfl

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how do you figure.....8300 installed for a procharger?....you could get a crate 408 for what 5k? sell your ls6 for 3k? and youd have 6300 left before you hit the superchargers budget.....and HAVE WAY MORE POWER. gader kad errrrrrr....

gangbang malloy

yes centriugal superchargers act like a turbo just without all that added heat under the hood, but turbos still make more power

zeusrotty

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5K? where? payless engines? It would have shitty internals and alot of cubes... Lets not forget the install and swapping of all of the external parts either... Not only will you have a 408 with cheap parts but you wont be able to take it off and get some kind of resale out of the car... Procharger is a one day project at best, and its easier than swapping a whole motor and selling mine.

More cost effective...