Who's V is a track whore?
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Not for drag racing, but for Auto Crossing or Road Racing?
I'm going to be setting mine up to handle, I've got a line on some eibach coil overs right now for $450. What sway bars would be good for some daily driving and kickin *** at the track. (i'm competing with all of my old corvette buddies)
I'm going to be setting mine up to handle, I've got a line on some eibach coil overs right now for $450. What sway bars would be good for some daily driving and kickin *** at the track. (i'm competing with all of my old corvette buddies)
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u can rock on stock suspension I have tracked my car a few times and it is all bone stock I was passing everyone with it including e92 m3's and zo6's the stock suspension is very capable and is confort for everyday driving
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Hotchkis sways, ZO6 endlinks, Ground control coilovers w/ 550/600# springs (should have gone 600/650#), BMR pinion support and KARS stage 3 wheelhop bar. Oh yeah, tires, tires, tires. A good alignment goes a loooooong way too. I liked my Toyo T1Rs better than my previous GSD3s (245F/275R).
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Hmmmm, I'd say:
1. Tires
2. Alignment
3. Sways
4. Coilovers
The pinion support and KARS kit are more to eliminate slop and hop but don't really add to cornering ability.
BTW, I assume you already have the FG2 shocks. If not, then that would be #1.
1. Tires
2. Alignment
3. Sways
4. Coilovers
The pinion support and KARS kit are more to eliminate slop and hop but don't really add to cornering ability.
BTW, I assume you already have the FG2 shocks. If not, then that would be #1.
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CTS-V uses a coil over strut in the front, and a sepperate coil and strut in the back. Almost all of the aftermarket shares this setup. The only full coilover (front and *rear*) that I'm aware of is the Penske's (available for sure through Mallett), but they are at the high end of the proce spectrum (5k+).
Most of the available upgraded springs re-use the struts that are already installed on the car (eibach, H&R, Ground Control). Only the GC has a kit to relocate the rear chock perch, to counteract the pump-up action of the rear OEM nivomats struts (because the car has Xenon HID's, some beam leveling is required by law in the US. Some OEM's will make the headlight auto-level, GM makes the car autolevel with the nivomate self leveling rear strut.) If you have FG2 or FE4 struts in the rear, and install a lowering kit from Eibach or H&R, the fron twill stay low, but the rear will pump back up to OEM height, unless you relocate the shock perch.
Adjustable QA1 struts are a way around the self leveling nivomats as well (if you really felt the urge to use the H&R or Eibach springs).
Finally in the mid range price point is something like the KW kits, which includes adjustable struts as well as new springs.
Hope this helps on the strut/spring questions.
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It does indeed, thanks a bunch!
FWIW I'm looking at picking up an '05 or '06 late this year as a DD and occasional track toy. I've done the LSX/brakes/suspension/track thing before ('98 Z28 & '99 C5) but not with a CTS, so I need to bone up on the topic. Particularly the brakes, since this is a significantly heavier car than I've dealt with before, and I know almost nothing about the stock brake system beyond the obvious fact that the calipers are Brembos.
FWIW I'm looking at picking up an '05 or '06 late this year as a DD and occasional track toy. I've done the LSX/brakes/suspension/track thing before ('98 Z28 & '99 C5) but not with a CTS, so I need to bone up on the topic. Particularly the brakes, since this is a significantly heavier car than I've dealt with before, and I know almost nothing about the stock brake system beyond the obvious fact that the calipers are Brembos.
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(because the car has Xenon HID's, some beam leveling is required by law in the US. Some OEM's will make the headlight auto-level, GM makes the car autolevel with the nivomate self leveling rear strut.) If you have FG2 or FE4 struts in the rear, and install a lowering kit from Eibach or H&R, the front will stay low, but the rear will pump back up to OEM height, unless you relocate the shock perch.
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It does indeed, thanks a bunch!
FWIW I'm looking at picking up an '05 or '06 late this year as a DD and occasional track toy. I've done the LSX/brakes/suspension/track thing before ('98 Z28 & '99 C5) but not with a CTS, so I need to bone up on the topic. Particularly the brakes, since this is a significantly heavier car than I've dealt with before, and I know almost nothing about the stock brake system beyond the obvious fact that the calipers are Brembos.
FWIW I'm looking at picking up an '05 or '06 late this year as a DD and occasional track toy. I've done the LSX/brakes/suspension/track thing before ('98 Z28 & '99 C5) but not with a CTS, so I need to bone up on the topic. Particularly the brakes, since this is a significantly heavier car than I've dealt with before, and I know almost nothing about the stock brake system beyond the obvious fact that the calipers are Brembos.
Money would be better spent on suspension upgrades vs. brake upgrades on this car (although the stock suspension is pretty nice for a luxo-sport). If you already have FG2 struts [You can check by looking at the strut. It has a purple sticker on it. If it is outlined in solid back they aren;t FG2's, it is has a dotted/checker board outline, then you have FG2's], I'd start with some adjustable sways (I have the Hots bars, and wish I would have got adjustables now). I'm not sure who makes adjustables though. The Gm Racing ones were adjustable, but they are sold out.
If you don't have FG2's then I'd consider upgrading to something like the QA1's or KW's. Then get sway bars later.
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Most of the available upgraded springs re-use the struts that are already installed on the car (eibach, H&R, Ground Control). Only the GC has a kit to relocate the rear chock perch, to counteract the pump-up action of the rear OEM nivomats struts (because the car has Xenon HID's, some beam leveling is required by law in the US. Some OEM's will make the headlight auto-level, GM makes the car autolevel with the nivomate self leveling rear strut.) If you have FG2 or FE4 struts in the rear, and install a lowering kit from Eibach or H&R, the fron twill stay low, but the rear will pump back up to OEM height, unless you relocate the shock perch.
I'm thinking regular eibach pro kit and some hotchkis sways would set this car up nicely!
Why do you think the adjustables are better?
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http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...79561700028459
These springs replace the stock springs, so they go over your stock struts up front (a la a coil over), and replace the rear springs in the back (not a coil over).
Now that I've tracked my car some, I'd like the felxibility that the adjustables provide. You can dial in understeer or oversteer to some extent as needed at the track. Very handy. The Hots bars are a nice product, and I'll probabaly keep mine, now that I have them.
Finally I'm not sure what the actual spring rates are for the Eibach springs, as to my knowledge they don;t publish the spring rates. A lot of people choose the Ground Control over the Eibach or the H&R just for that reason. Aditionally with the GC, you can choose your own spring rates, change ride height, and still use your OEM nivomat struts.
Sounds like from what you've described and nice GC kit + Hots bars would work fairly well for you, since your car will only see light track duty.
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To my knowledge Eibach only makes a spring kit for this car (called the pro kit):
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...79561700028459
These springs replace the stock springs, so they go over your stock struts up front (a la a coil over), and replace the rear springs in the back (not a coil over).
Now that I've tracked my car some, I'd like the felxibility that the adjustables provide. You can dial in understeer or oversteer to some extent as needed at the track. Very handy. The Hots bars are a nice product, and I'll probabaly keep mine, now that I have them.
Finally I'm not sure what the actual spring rates are for the Eibach springs, as to my knowledge they don;t publish the spring rates. A lot of people choose the Ground Control over the Eibach or the H&R just for that reason. Aditionally with the GC, you can choose your own spring rates, change ride height, and still use your OEM nivomat struts.
Sounds like from what you've described and nice GC kit + Hots bars would work fairly well for you, since your car will only see light track duty.
-Chris
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...79561700028459
These springs replace the stock springs, so they go over your stock struts up front (a la a coil over), and replace the rear springs in the back (not a coil over).
Now that I've tracked my car some, I'd like the felxibility that the adjustables provide. You can dial in understeer or oversteer to some extent as needed at the track. Very handy. The Hots bars are a nice product, and I'll probabaly keep mine, now that I have them.
Finally I'm not sure what the actual spring rates are for the Eibach springs, as to my knowledge they don;t publish the spring rates. A lot of people choose the Ground Control over the Eibach or the H&R just for that reason. Aditionally with the GC, you can choose your own spring rates, change ride height, and still use your OEM nivomat struts.
Sounds like from what you've described and nice GC kit + Hots bars would work fairly well for you, since your car will only see light track duty.
-Chris
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I've always known eibach to be a very good spring. But i'll definitely check out the others. Thanks alot!
I wonder if the "eibach coil overs" I was offered for $450 are just eibach springs on stock shocks.
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I've always known eibach to be a very good spring. But i'll definitely check out the others. Thanks alot!
I wonder if the "eibach coil overs" I was offered for $450 are just eibach springs on stock shocks.
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I've always known eibach to be a very good spring. But i'll definitely check out the others. Thanks alot!
I wonder if the "eibach coil overs" I was offered for $450 are just eibach springs on stock shocks.
I think you were about to get okey-doked on those coil-overs (but I could be wriong).
-Chris
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I've always known eibach to be a very good spring. But i'll definitely check out the others. Thanks alot!
I wonder if the "eibach coil overs" I was offered for $450 are just eibach springs on stock shocks.
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I've always known eibach to be a very good spring. But i'll definitely check out the others. Thanks alot!
I wonder if the "eibach coil overs" I was offered for $450 are just eibach springs on stock shocks.