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Old 10-05-2005, 12:11 PM
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Get 15x7.5 convo pros... they bolt on with no issues, just get them from summit or jegs... you can get hoosier tires directly from hoosier canada in st catherines... after the dust settles you will be in for about a grand... i run these rims and ran an 11.1@124 at tmp last weekend and only make 430rwhp (A4) but my car is about 300lbs lighter than yours... my buddy in Mtl just ran an 11.7@122 with his 440rwhp 6spd H&C car with these rims on a 27x9" hoosier QTP...
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Originally Posted by vmax1500
Get 15x7.5 convo pros... they bolt on with no issues, just get them from summit or jegs... you can get hoosier tires directly from hoosier canada in st catherines... after the dust settles you will be in for about a grand... i run these rims and ran an 11.1@124 at tmp last weekend and only make 430rwhp (A4) but my car is about 300lbs lighter than yours... my buddy in Mtl just ran an 11.7@122 with his 440rwhp 6spd H&C car with these rims on a 27x9" hoosier QTP...
Andre I thought you dynoed 450 something after the A4 swap?
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Originally Posted by CHRISPY
Andre I thought you dynoed 450 something after the A4 swap?
It did... but that was with the 1st 700R4 that did not have enough line pressure... after the tranny was redone the dyno numbers dropped by ~20HP... but the car went faster
Old 10-05-2005, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vmax1500
It did... but that was with the 1st 700R4 that did not have enough line pressure... after the tranny was redone the dyno numbers dropped by ~20HP... but the car went faster
Your tc would account for that. Your 20HP drop wasn't bad as it could have been a 20% loss. Stalled cars lose on the dyno but gain at the track. Like you always say, "the track is the TRUE test."
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Werent you running the same converter Andre in both dynos?

That is interesting to know line pressure could knock off so much power....MAkes sense though
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Originally Posted by CHRISPY
Werent you running the same converter Andre in both dynos?

That is interesting to know line pressure could knock off so much power....MAkes sense though
Same converter... the original tranny did not have enough line pressure and this is what screwed up my 1st trip to the track when the tranny was slipping... after Marty redid the tranny Wade went back to the dyno... the numbers dropped to about 430RWHP locked... goes to show how little dyno numbers mean!
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Originally Posted by vmax1500
after Marty redid the tranny Wade went back to the dyno... the numbers dropped to about 430RWHP locked... goes to show how little dyno numbers mean!
So after posting 5 times INSISITING that L4T should have gone faster due to his dyno numbers you now question how much dyno numbers really mean?

Glad to seee there's no bias or hidden agendas in you posts.
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Originally Posted by 93-Z07
Think about it, this summer Eugeneo's car supposedly had almost ONE HUNDRED RWHP MORE than your full weight Z28 yet had an almost identical trap speed?

Intersting how you never pointed this out before........
and you dare talking about hidden agenda's
fwiw, my car is over 4100lbs... had big skinnies (55lbs per tire/wheel) that's 220lbs of rotaional mass, and had trunk full of other things... lol
Not that it's an excuse, but since you bitching about others not knowing their #s, you don't either... my car dynoes 501, not 600.
As mentionned, the car is over 4100 w/ 220 on tire/wheels alone which slows down a lot (rotational mass)
Also, my best 60' time was 2.2xx seconds.
Even w/ a 12.4 @ 118 mph on a 2.2+sec 60' ain't that bad.
Keeping all else alike, but put a sticky tire in the rear and still keep my stea,-roller skinnies in the front, I could get a 1.6-1.7 60' time, putting me easily in mid-11s car for a 4100+ lbs convertible setup for road racing.... not too bad if you ask me.
Way better than some shitty criminals shop (aka ARE/Autoworx) that lie and **** and their customers so they can fill their pockets... and sell customer parts to other customers and tell "**** Off" to the previous ones.

btw, I suggest you go back to school and learn how to write people's names... copying should be an easy task...
maybe you should go back to playnig music... probably way better than working on cars... heck, can't even wire an electric cutout without having the customer end up doing it for you.
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oh and btw, teh new engine is working perfectly fine...
way better than the tchou-tchou ARE engine supposedly running 410rwhp, but to which the car never ran under 14s @ the track... while my stock ls1 managed to do so...
ps: I don't have a hidden agenda...


At least for once I was treated like a customer. and FTR was the only ones able to do so, not the Criminal administrative BS-ers ARE/Autoworx POS.

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Jimmy, ask your criminal bosses where my parts are ?
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another thing... my FTR LS2 has now more kms on it than the ARE tchou-tchou that never made power.
and guess what ?
It's not smoking, it's still making tons of power, not drinking oil, and is faster than stock.
And bottom line is I'm happy now, about time, after 2 years of ARE aggravation.
Bunch of ******* that made me loose over 15k$ for just a crank and rods... and stolen parts to be sold to other customers.
:sftu: actions speak louder than BS empty promises.
I know who to trust.
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Why is it that every thread here needs to turn into an ARE vs FTR war?
Old 10-10-2005, 07:23 PM
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Now back to the topic. I can say that you are not the slowest Cdn. turbo. I went to St. Thomas on fri. night and there was a guy there in a white firebird running an STS system. I never saw him make a pass better than 14.00.
Judging by what I saw I think a lot of his problems boiled down to a) traction, he was on street tires and b) what little boost he made he lost between granny shifts and had to build it all over again at which time he needed to shift.
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I was just browsing the latest GMHTP and there is a blown 99 TA in there that was supposed to make 530 rwhp and on BFG DR's mentions it only went 12.1@118. Says his auto was slipping, it had a stall in it too. There are a lot of links in the chain and the weakest one will slow you down, in my case it's the driver!

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Originally Posted by Brett H
Why is it that every thread here needs to turn into an ARE vs FTR war?
Because people are idiots and think that the shop that they use is somehow a very important part of their lives and everyone elses that reads the boards?
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It's funny how I did not even know who the guy who started this thread is or which shop he goes to... his own title was asking if he had the slowest turbo F-Body?
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Originally Posted by Brett H
Why is it that every thread here needs to turn into an ARE vs FTR war?
maybe because some employees start bitching too much about, claiming others have hidden agendas.
now, back to traction... not having traction makes things a lot worse and it's so easy to screw up in every sense... being @ stock levels, the ball game is quite different... the more power one gets, the lower the margin for getting things right. Almost everything can go against you... especially for guys with a t56.
Not only is traction limited, being able to play with the clutch/gas so that spinning doesn't occur, nor bog/stall... not to mention that one can easily be tempted to floor it too fast and just start spinning.
Hell, when I was in Ottawa a few weeks ago, 1st, 2nd gear were just useless and spinning like hell, then 3rd would bog a bit... causing the best 60' of the day to be in the 2.6xx sec... never had these issues when the car was stock... I remember pulling 1.9xx sec on 60' before fairly easy... and It's just so much harder to launch now... just need practice and seat-time... something I've been deprived of the last 2 seasons.
Ain't complaining of the lack of traction, though... plenty happy, and will gladly get more practice next year
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Note to Eugenio and Jim. This thread is not about either of you so.... and start your own threads if you want to.
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Originally Posted by Bugblndr
Note to Eugenio and Jim. This thread is not about either of you so.... and start your own threads if you want to.
fair enough... but I got back on track discussing the issues of traction.
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Originally Posted by Lust4Thrust
Best I could manage @ Grand Bend Friday Sept 30th was:

60' ...... 2.190
330 ..... 5.708
1/8.......8.446 @ 89.92
990.......10.794
1/4.......12.741 @ 115.81

So, now should I go with 16" rims and slicks or 17"?

Specs:

98 Camaro SS, 32,000 km. (5000 km on turbo Summer Street only)
Stock Motor (except 918 springs old stock springs had 65 lbs pressure!)
single log manifold kit T-63 (piping made by Stainless works for a Non Sponsor)
7psi on MBC
Borla exhaust QTP cutout no cats
Upgraded fuel pump and 42 lb injectors
SMC methanol progressive methanol (on @ 2psi, full flow @ 10 psi)
20 degrees timing
Moser 12 bolt 3.73
Spohn torque arm, relocation brackets and LCA
Spece 3 clutch
SLP SFC, STB, Eibach pro springs, Bilstein HDs, Energy bushings
AMW catch can.
Stock somewhat bald rear Eagle F1 tires.

(peak 448 rwhp, 543 rwtq, 90 degrees 100% humidity, 600ft
as mentionned before, traction is what is hurting you the most.
I have a similar situation that you have.
let's say you were to get 16" wheels in the back with a ET-street tire... that should make your 60' around 1.6xx (if not 1.5xx).
That alone will cut your time of about 0.6 seconds... and that is only on the first 60'.
That could translate in lowering your times of 0.8 - 1.0 seconds, if not more... bringing you in the mid-high 11s range, without changing anything else in your car... just the rear tires/wheels.

there is lots of potential... just not putting the power to the ground.


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