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Old 02-01-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by adrenalineaddiction
I did tons of research before ordering my setup. I went with a zeitronix wide band with a map sensor and sensor for my fuel pressure. I also tapped into my TPS for my bauman trans controller and my MSD for my RPM referance. Pretty awesome to log AFR, Fuel Press, TPS, RPM, and Manifold pressure. Going to be very helpful when I intall the Blower in a week or two.

I am very happy with the quality of the zeitronix and you have the option of a Pod mount display that you can scroll through all the inputs you give it with the push of a button or a rectangular display that shows them all at once. I went with the pod mount.
Looks like a nice unit. Wish it had an SD card or USB drive to record the data. Kinda sucks to need a lap top to record anything.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
Looks like a nice unit. Wish it had an SD card or USB drive to record the data. Kinda sucks to need a lap top to record anything.

Ya I thought of that but if I am tuning I gotta have my laptop to adjust timing in my MSD and also to adjust shift points in my trans, so I pretty much gotta carry it anyway. But it would suck if I had a sudden problem and didnt have my laptop with me to log.
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wideband makes things easier, get your float levels right if there to low it will have a lean hole off idle usually, (from what i learnt with yrs of bike carb tuning) and I basically watch the afr gauge and run as lean as possible on front mains, then WOT from say 3000-7000 I try to average 12.5:1. I change the rears to compensate for this. I have around 40 deg of overlap@50 and it idles at 14:1 cruises in the 13s
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just found this http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lma3.php

right now i have the "uego" and always wanted a way to data log my set up.

it was 3 internal sensors and you can also use 5 external sensors, my thinking was just wire the uego wideband as one of the external sensors. any one try this??

edit looks like this box is cheaped and should do the same thing http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/ssi_4.php

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Kinda off topic, but what's the thread pattern of the OEM wide bands?
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i think its 18x1.5
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Originally Posted by overhere
i think its 18x1.5
thats correct!
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I am running the aem uego unit. It works awesome. I just wish it had data logging. It's very hard to watch the wideband while holding the truck sideways at freeway speeds LOL!
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Originally Posted by 3pedals
I use a simple NGK setup. it was 249. It came with a quality NTK sensor.
It is not a pretty guage, but it is easy to see since it has a BRIGHT red number display.
I dont think carb guys need anything different than efi guys, we need to have a referance to what is happening in the motor. you can go simple with something like what I run, or you can go fancy with something that datalogs so you can look over the data later, instead of while driving.
If you go with a setup that data logs, I recommend getting a unit that can log more than just the A/F ratio, as you will need to reference the A/F to something else to be able to understand the data.
A/F, rpm and throttle position vs time, would be ideal, but just A/f and rpm vs time would do.

I have heard BAD things about the LM-2's rpm input, and that it is not reliable, just an FYI.
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I took your advise on this one Barret. I ordered the NGK today.
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hope you like it, I like mine. I have used it on my camaro, my drag sled, and a freinds drag sled, and soon on yet another freinds 442.
the SUPER bright display comes in real handy on the sled at a buck 10 running down the track :-)
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Im gonna use my UEGO once somebody makes a damn Pillar pod for a 2nd gen (or get my N20 hooked up)
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gonna be putting an innovate mtx-l in my stang hopefully next week
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Default Tell me your A/F at WOT and Idle

Tell me what kind of WOT and idle numbers you are all running. I got my AFX today and I want to hear what is working.
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mine runs great showing me 13's at idle, but you cant use the wideband for idle - do it old school - highest vacuum at your desired idle speed
off idle my cruise is real rich - 11.8- 12.2, I need to work on this
WOT I have run my best mph with the a/f showing me 12.8. - I just jetted it leaner to show 13.1, and no track testing yet....

The wideband will drive you crazy because you can see all kinds of "little" problems but really just use it to give you good advice about which direction to go

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Originally Posted by 3pedals

off idle my cruise is real rich - 11.8- 12.2, I need to work on this

WOT I have run my best mph with the a/f showing me 12.8. - I just jetted it leaner to show 13.1, and no track testing yet....
This is a great article on tuning the off idle and cruise circuits using a wideband.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...age/index.html



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