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Old 07-29-2011, 04:14 PM
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Default Cam Choice - I wish I would have gone a little bigger

Now that I have had some time to cruise around in my car, I wish I would have gone a little bigger on the cam. Not because of the powerband but simply for the idle. Once my car warms up, it idles nearly smooth. I have the XR275H12 from Comp Cams. It is 222/224 .566/.568 on 112. If I were to do it over again, I probably would go with something more like 230/236 on 110. I won't take it apart again anytime soon, but if I ever do I will bump it up a bit so I can have a little more rumpety rump.
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I was running a 228/232 on a 110 and it idled pretty smooth. 230/236 wouldn't be bad at all.













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That small cam is good for a 5.3, but anything bigger(cubes) i would have to use something in the 230s or biger.
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what's your idle rpm in gear? maybe you have it too high still? My cam is much larger and unless I drop it down quite a bit it doesn't have a lope either
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
what's your idle rpm in gear? maybe you have it too high still? My cam is much larger and unless I drop it down quite a bit it doesn't have a lope either
I have it set to idle at 850 in neutral and about 725 to 750 in gear. It will lope more at 650, but when I set it that low I get a little idle surging sometimes.
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I just purchased a Comp Cams 238/240 for my LS2 404 c.i. Stroker motor.

They say this cam should have good driveability in my 404 c.i.

Im thinkin i might have to go with a little more Stall in the future.
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Go trex imo...wont have to worry about not lopin anymore for sure
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Stock Cube LQ9? a 228R would have been my choice.

I have a T2 232/234-112LSA in a 404 and love it.


EDIT to ADD: You may want to do a custom grind vs an off the shelf, the vic jr's seem to react better to a cam cut for the intake.

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Originally Posted by speedtigger
I have it set to idle at 850 in neutral and about 725 to 750 in gear. It will lope more at 650, but when I set it that low I get a little idle surging sometimes.
idle surging = lope? Obviously you picked a daily driver type camshaft, but it should have "some" noise to it. Although I would have thought mine would have sounded more aggressive at idle as well, and it doesn't. Who knows
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
idle surging = lope?
I know you are kidding. Right?
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yup just trying to lighten the mood a little this morning while not throwing this netbook across the living room!
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
yup just trying to lighten the mood a little this morning while not throwing this netbook across the living room!
If I had a dollar for every time I threatened to throw a computer in the lake, I could buy the whole carb forum breakfast.
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
If I had a dollar for every time I threatened to throw a computer in the lake, I could buy the whole carb forum breakfast.
Western omelet please....LOL

From what all I've read, it looks like the ASA cam works pretty decent and has the sound you want...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL1OhyPw9Sw
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That ASA cam has a rumble to it, maybe more than I would want. If I compare it to what Speedtigger is running now.

Speedtigger's : 222/224 .566/.568 on 112
GM ASA : 226/236, 525/525 at 110°

so a fair amount more exhaust duration, less lift and tighter lobe separation.

Is it the LSA that is making the difference in the idle, or that combined with the few more degrees of duration that causes that idle?

Just noticed Lunati has come out with a whole line of new LS cams, some specifically for carb.

LS1 WITH CARB
60519** 2400 - 6800 CAMSHAFT, GM LS VHRX278-08CX 278/282 227/231 .651/.651 108/108
60520** 2800 - 7000 CAMSHAFT, GM LS VHRX286-08CX 286/294 235/243 .651/.651 108/108
60521** 3200 - 7200 CAMSHAFT, GM LS VHRX298-08CX 298/306 247/255 .651/.651 108/108
60522** 3600 - 7500 CAMSHAFT, GM LS VHRX306-08CX 306/314 255/263 .651/.651 108/108

Even the mildest one in the list above seems pretty radical. 108 lobe separation though. But the lift numbers, what sort of issues will that cause? I figure checking piswton clearance will be must, but what sort of springs are needed for that much lift and what sort of spring life could be expected?

http://www.lunatipower.com/Media/Doc...0LS%20Cams.pdf

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Originally Posted by Doug G
Western omelet please....LOL

From what all I've read, it looks like the ASA cam works pretty decent and has the sound you want...


Dang, that ASA has a nice choppy idle tone
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I think it has more to do with the LSA

If you took 2 of the same cams (same lift and duration) one with a 106 LSA and one with a 114 LSA (if you could do that) the tighter LSA I think would sound way more aggressive.
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why you guys going with cam's with such wide LSA's?
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
60519** 2400 - 6800 CAMSHAFT, GM LS VHRX278-08CX 278/282 227/231 .651/.651 108/108

Even the mildest one in the list above seems pretty radical. 108 lobe separation though. But the lift numbers, what sort of issues will that cause? I figure checking piswton clearance will be must, but what sort of springs are needed for that much lift and what sort of spring life could be expected?
I like the looks of this one. It has some serious lift though.
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Look at the .050 numbers
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big lift numbers and stock heads don't flow well up there, so no reason to run that kind of lift IMO.


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