New ZL-1 Camaro times!!!
03-01-2012, 12:21 PM
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^completely agree with you guys. Truthfully I believe this camaro should be called the ss or z28. the zl1 badge for the 1969 camaro had 550+ fwhp and was NA and the phase 3 zl1 berger had 620 fwhp....again NA. Granted gas mileage is a huge concern, they should have saved that name for a camaro to go up against the "super snake" and gave it 800+ hp
03-01-2012, 01:07 PM
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Personally I think it should have been billed as the ULTIMATE, DO IT ALL, Z28. JMHO. It rides like a caddy, handles like a slot car, accelerates PRETTY well, and has every option imaginable. Again, IMHO, cars like the Chalenger 6.4, Camaro ZL1, and Cobra show just how far the automobile has come in even the last 5 to 10 years. Eric L
03-01-2012, 01:13 PM
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Personally I think it should have been billed as the ULTIMATE, DO IT ALL, Z28. JMHO. It rides like a caddy, handles like a slot car, accelerates PRETTY well, and has every option imaginable. Again, IMHO, cars like the Chalenger 6.4, Camaro ZL1, and Cobra show just how far the automobile has come in even the last 5 to 10 years. Eric L
03-01-2012, 02:27 PM
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Afford it is the opperative word. I can dig on these new cars, but they can keep them for 50 - 80k. Ill keep building my own stuff. Because no matter how much you spend on a new car, it will never be YOUR car, no matter how many spoilers, blowers, or graphics you stick on it. Now fire up the coffee maker, im going out to the garage. Eric L
03-01-2012, 03:53 PM
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Yea, Protrac, Thats why I built the LS3 powered 72 Camaro. had it all set up to buy a new camaro, but it just wasnt ME. Too many bells and whistles for my taste. I put my 72 together all by my self, including the paint. I farmed out the trans build and i did go crate GM on the motor, although i did a cam/intake swap . Nothing like putting your own junk together!
03-01-2012, 04:28 PM
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Motor Trend went 12.1 with the ZL1 on street tires and full exhaust. It also pull a full 1.0 G on the skidpad. What was the original ZL1. 0.65 G?They do not list the trap speed, but if I recall it was in the video and 120+.
I would love one. I would love an original ZL1 even more. A L89 would do as well. My uncle has one and have loved the car since I saw it in 1970.
I would love one. I would love an original ZL1 even more. A L89 would do as well. My uncle has one and have loved the car since I saw it in 1970.
03-01-2012, 05:03 PM
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The original ZL1 was purpose built for drag racing. Only a couple late production ones had any options on them - most came with dog dish hubcaps - no exterior marking either. Price made them hard to sell - double that of an iron block COPO car. Both models are worth a fortune today.
New ZL1 is made for rich guys who want to show they have money. These are high end cruisors - kind of a sad comparison. 40 years from now which do you think will have more value??
New ZL1 is made for rich guys who want to show they have money. These are high end cruisors - kind of a sad comparison. 40 years from now which do you think will have more value??
03-01-2012, 05:58 PM
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I want to say it was either Car and Driver or Motortrend who ran something like 12.3s with it in another test. That's still a long way off from the original ZL1's 10.4 @ 128. Although, the 1969 ZL1 didn't have IRS and Magnetic Ride Control to help in the cornering department.
03-01-2012, 06:06 PM
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The original ZL1 was purpose built for drag racing. Only a couple late production ones had any options on them - most came with dog dish hubcaps - no exterior marking either. Price made them hard to sell - double that of an iron block COPO car. Both models are worth a fortune today.
New ZL1 is made for rich guys who want to show they have money. These are high end cruisors - kind of a sad comparison. 40 years from now which do you think will have more value??
New ZL1 is made for rich guys who want to show they have money. These are high end cruisors - kind of a sad comparison. 40 years from now which do you think will have more value??
03-01-2012, 06:45 PM
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November 2011 1969 ZL-1 Camaro reunion...2:10 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXtF...ayer_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXtF...ayer_embedded#!
Last edited by Doug G; 03-01-2012 at 06:50 PM.
03-02-2012, 03:26 PM
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I'm pretty positive the 10.41@128.1 was just slicks (stock polyglass severely limited them as said above), an un-corked exhaust, and the stock Holley 850 it was delivered with. Later in S/S prepped form (from what I've read it was basically suspension work, fiberglass front end, ignition, headers, and a paint job) it ran 9.63 @ 143 and became the 1971 AHRA S/S Champ.
And no, the 1969 ZL1 wouldn't come close to the 2012 at the ring, it was intended only for the drag strip.
