Ls alternator wiring
#3
Your supposed to run a resistor inline it needs 5 volts. Any more and it burns up the alternator. There are quite a few write-ups on it here. I just put a 1993-1994 4.3 S10 alternator on the truck bracket and forget about it.
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Bumping an old thread.
So the brown wire "I" connects to the starter wire (purple for GM IIRC)? So the excitor wire only gets power when the car is cranking?
Also the "S" can be added as the load for the alternator into any 12v service. Not directly to the battery + as that defeats the purpose. In my alt loom this is a light gray wire.
Great alt reading:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...art2/#csseries
Thanks!
So the brown wire "I" connects to the starter wire (purple for GM IIRC)? So the excitor wire only gets power when the car is cranking?
Also the "S" can be added as the load for the alternator into any 12v service. Not directly to the battery + as that defeats the purpose. In my alt loom this is a light gray wire.
Great alt reading:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...art2/#csseries
Thanks!
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Works!!!
Voltage will fluctuate a little bit so I am hoping the system voltage is being read from the Gray wire and adjusting as needed.
It is tough to see but there is a 47 Ohm (50 on paper) resistor underneath the heat shrink on the Brown wire.
PM me if you need the resistors, I have 49 left over! Because Amazon.
Before the Alternator did not charge at all, the truck ran on only battery power with the "one wire" +pole setup. The battery was slowly draining out as the truck ran.
Right now I have the trickle charger on the battery so that we are full up + when needed to crank. Also note that the MSD is VERY sensitive to power fluctuations! Needs good ground and a solid 12v to run right, even if the starter turns don't assume it is enough for the the MSD. Put power to the MSD on a relay if you can.
Thank You!!!
Voltage will fluctuate a little bit so I am hoping the system voltage is being read from the Gray wire and adjusting as needed.
It is tough to see but there is a 47 Ohm (50 on paper) resistor underneath the heat shrink on the Brown wire.
PM me if you need the resistors, I have 49 left over! Because Amazon.
Before the Alternator did not charge at all, the truck ran on only battery power with the "one wire" +pole setup. The battery was slowly draining out as the truck ran.
Right now I have the trickle charger on the battery so that we are full up + when needed to crank. Also note that the MSD is VERY sensitive to power fluctuations! Needs good ground and a solid 12v to run right, even if the starter turns don't assume it is enough for the the MSD. Put power to the MSD on a relay if you can.
Thank You!!!
Last edited by APillow; 07-10-2015 at 05:25 PM.
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Works!!!
Voltage will fluctuate a little bit so I am hoping the system voltage is being read from the Gray wire and adjusting as needed.
It is tough to see but there is a 47 Ohm (50 on paper) resistor underneath the heat shrink on the Brown wire.
PM me if you need the resistors, I have 49 left over! Because Amazon.
Before the Alternator did not charge at all, the truck ran on only battery power with the "one wire" +pole setup. The battery was slowly draining out as the truck ran.
Right now I have the trickle charger on the battery so that we are full up + when needed to crank. Also note that the MSD is VERY sensitive to power fluctuations! Needs good ground and a solid 12v to run right, even if the starter turns don't assume it is enough for the the MSD. Put power to the MSD on a relay if you can.
Thank You!!!
Voltage will fluctuate a little bit so I am hoping the system voltage is being read from the Gray wire and adjusting as needed.
It is tough to see but there is a 47 Ohm (50 on paper) resistor underneath the heat shrink on the Brown wire.
PM me if you need the resistors, I have 49 left over! Because Amazon.
Before the Alternator did not charge at all, the truck ran on only battery power with the "one wire" +pole setup. The battery was slowly draining out as the truck ran.
Right now I have the trickle charger on the battery so that we are full up + when needed to crank. Also note that the MSD is VERY sensitive to power fluctuations! Needs good ground and a solid 12v to run right, even if the starter turns don't assume it is enough for the the MSD. Put power to the MSD on a relay if you can.
Thank You!!!
Andrew
#12
I struggled a bit on where to tap the L wire. It needs to be switched with the key, but no reason they both can't be connected to switched wire in the fuse box.
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How does the alternator behave without the S terminal connected, while running 5 volts to the L terminal only??
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If S is disconnected the Alt will go into a steady state "load"/duty cycle that is not dependent on fuse box feedback voltage.
You can run the Alt w/o the S wire connected just fine. But I cannot remember the fixed output voltage that you will get.
It is better to run the S wire if you are able. Shoot mine worked out fine using the same input wire off the fuse box.
You can run the Alt w/o the S wire connected just fine. But I cannot remember the fixed output voltage that you will get.
It is better to run the S wire if you are able. Shoot mine worked out fine using the same input wire off the fuse box.
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As I recall, without the S terminal wired, the alternator will putt out a steady 13.7 volts. However, once more load is added, the output will drop. This is exactly what happens in my GTO swap, as it does not have the S terminal wired. When the coolant fans kick on, there is about a .5v drop. When the turn signals are on, you can see the needle on the volt meter bouncing to the rhythm of the blinkers.
On my Cougar swap, I have the S terminal wired to the battery (essentially) and it does not behave the same way. Voltage is steady when the fan kicks on, but then again my fan is PWM controlled so I do not have a large amp spike.
Wiring the S terminal is easy and there is no reason not to do it. No downside.
Andrew
#17
I have my S terminal wired essentially to the battery, because that is where most everything gets its power. Other people have a main power distribution bar and they wire the S terminal there.
As I recall, without the S terminal wired, the alternator will putt out a steady 13.7 volts. However, once more load is added, the output will drop. This is exactly what happens in my GTO swap, as it does not have the S terminal wired. When the coolant fans kick on, there is about a .5v drop. When the turn signals are on, you can see the needle on the volt meter bouncing to the rhythm of the blinkers.
On my Cougar swap, I have the S terminal wired to the battery (essentially) and it does not behave the same way. Voltage is steady when the fan kicks on, but then again my fan is PWM controlled so I do not have a large amp spike.
Wiring the S terminal is easy and there is no reason not to do it. No downside.
Andrew
As I recall, without the S terminal wired, the alternator will putt out a steady 13.7 volts. However, once more load is added, the output will drop. This is exactly what happens in my GTO swap, as it does not have the S terminal wired. When the coolant fans kick on, there is about a .5v drop. When the turn signals are on, you can see the needle on the volt meter bouncing to the rhythm of the blinkers.
On my Cougar swap, I have the S terminal wired to the battery (essentially) and it does not behave the same way. Voltage is steady when the fan kicks on, but then again my fan is PWM controlled so I do not have a large amp spike.
Wiring the S terminal is easy and there is no reason not to do it. No downside.
Andrew
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the S wire should go to the point where most of the accessories draw their power, like the fuse box. The voltage regulator inside the alternator will adjust the output to keep the voltage there constant. Like someone else said do not connect the voltage sense wire (S) to the battery.