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Old 03-21-2015, 04:18 PM
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Hey guys. I was installing cam today. Checked ptv with clay and intake valve is hitting piston. Before I call who spec cam I was wonder if maybe I'm doing something wrong. So motor is a 06 lq4. Stock bottom end. It has the factory valve reliefs for the exhaust already on Pistons. I'm running ls3 821 heads that milled .007 to clean them up. 7.4 pushrods, which are good. I checked valve stem tip as I was doing ptv checking. So I lined up the dots on timing gears used checking springs , used feeler gauges to makeup for .051 gasket thin knead. Torqued rockers arms down to 22lbs when piston at tdc.
cam specs are
.632/.627 lift
227/243 .050 dur
110+4 lsa
106 ICL
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The LS3/L92 heads have huge valves....this combined with the dur on the exh side is the reason we need to fly~cut
This can be done on the motor, in the car, with the proper tools and precautions.
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It has valve relief on exhaust side. Exhaust has about .160 clearence
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Originally Posted by jerr6
Hey guys. I was installing cam today. Checked ptv with clay and intake valve is hitting piston.
cam specs are
.632/.627 lift
227/243 .050 dur
110+4 lsa
106 ICL

May be able to create some clearance by retarding the cam w/ an adjustable timing set, but, it probably won't be enough. So, looks like you're gonna need to flycut the intake side.
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When I tighten rocker arms to check ptv should the dots on timing gears be lined up like the pic or should crank be 12 o'clock and cam be 12 oclock? Maybe that's what I did wrong?
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Before you start flycutting, measure the true icl of your cam. I have had a bad grind in the past. Flycutting isnt hard, just tedius.
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Intake side should fit, unless the heads have been shaved. Are u using a solid lifter?
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No I did not use solid lifter. I did use light checking springs. I wouldn't think its enough pressure to compress lifter.

The heads were milled .007. I did buy the heads used and that's what I was told they were milled. I did check pushrod length while I was at it and the 7.4 pushrods are the right length so wouldn't that confirm heads haven't been milled even more?
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The easy way would be to retard the cam.
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Weird. A 236/246 615/615 110 will fit, it's bizarre that yours doesn't. Checking with hyd lifter is tricky as you don't know it is pumped up or bled down. 7thou off is nothing, just a clean up of the face. Wonder if worthwhile actually using a head gasket instead of feeler guage?

But yeah, retarding the cam will help see where you are at. Fly-cutting easy to do though
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So I'm gonna try and come up with extra lifter or take one of mine apart to make it solid. If I use solid lifter do I have to use a pushrod length checker as the pushrod and adjust til zero lash?
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Originally Posted by jerr6
When I tighten rocker arms to check ptv should the dots on timing gears be lined up like the pic or should crank be 12 o'clock and cam be 12 oclock? Maybe that's what I did wrong?
Crank at 12 and cam at 6 .
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Originally Posted by jerr6
So I'm gonna try and come up with extra lifter or take one of mine apart to make it solid. If I use solid lifter do I have to use a pushrod length checker as the pushrod and adjust til zero lash?
Yes adjustable at zero lash. Just put the cam on the base circle when tightening the rockers. Dont worry about the dots.

Also make sure youre on base circle when finding zero lash
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Originally Posted by jerr6
Hey guys. I was installing cam today. Checked ptv with clay and intake valve is hitting piston. Before I call who spec cam I was wonder if maybe I'm doing something wrong. So motor is a 06 lq4. Stock bottom end. It has the factory valve reliefs for the exhaust already on Pistons. I'm running ls3 821 heads that milled .007 to clean them up. 7.4 pushrods, which are good. I checked valve stem tip as I was doing ptv checking. So I lined up the dots on timing gears used checking springs , used feeler gauges to makeup for .051 gasket thin knead. Torqued rockers arms down to 22lbs when piston at tdc.
cam specs are
.632/.627 lift
227/243 .050 dur
110+4 lsa
106 ICL
I would think you would have an intake p to v of about .015" to .020" with that set up if the info you provided is correct. Even at that, .015" to .020 piston-to-valve is very tight. Not many guys would brave that. That is the problem when you start milling square port heads on a combo like yours. Is that cam a Comp Cam with the LSK lobes? if so, those are really fast off of the seat and can exacerbate piston-to-valve clearance problems.

I would do 2 things: Check it again with a solid lifter set at "0" lash and measure the valve drop on the intake side.
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It is a comp cam. Not sure what lobe profile. Just got the pushrod length checker today. Still have to make up solid lifter. I will look into valve drop. Hope to recheck clearence this weekend.

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I have the fly cutters you need and would sell them to you if you decide to go that route.bought them new from lindy tools. Used them once on my motor
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Originally Posted by jonz
I have the fly cutters you need and would sell them to you if you decide to go that route.bought them new from lindy tools. Used them once on my motor
I ll keep that in mind. Thanks
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Can you give the cam number ?
Then that will tell the lobe type.
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it was a custom grind.
part #54-000-11
grind # ls1 13946r/13051r hr110+4
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That PN is what they use on the custom grinds....I think (mine has same PN)

Looking for the lobe numbers now.


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