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Old 07-08-2017, 12:32 PM
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crude, but as long as the air bypasses the throttle blade then yes it will be able to work.
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This thread is awesome with all the great pictures! I know it takes a ton of time away from the build to constantly stop and snap shots but we all really appreciate it! Keep up the great, and very professional work!

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Thanks Joey! I've relied heavily on forums over the years for guidance so I like do document if I can, you never know who it might help and folks smarter than me often raise issues I'd never have thought about.

Got one of my hydro boost lines done. Trickier than making the oil cooler lines that's for sure. This hose is rated to 2250 psi, so it's stiffer and harder to cut, and the fittings don't swivel so I needed to carefully plan out the orientation.

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Originally Posted by Chrenan
This hose is rated to 2250 psi, so it's stiffer and harder to cut, and the fittings don't swivel so I needed to carefully plan out the orientation.
Making hoses is a bridge I haven't yet crossed but I recall once seeing a tip (maybe in a Finnegan's Garage video?) to use cable cutters like the ones below for cutting hose.

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thin disc in the grinder is as good as any for cutting hoses.

The cutters above need to be pretty huge to try cutting hydraulic or stainless braided hose, as generally shears like that are intended for soft metals like aluminium or copper cables etc.
Not so much steel unless they've very good hardened jaws
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"Thanks Joey! I've relied heavily on forums over the years for guidance so I like do document if I can, you never know who it might help and folks smarter than me often raise issues I'd never have thought about."

Exactly my thought! I am doing a stroker video build on youtube in my sig because of the same reasons. Im not the smartest about this stuff but I know a little. I figured I would give back to those who have helped me throughout the years. Maybe someone will find it useful.

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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
thin disc in the grinder is as good as any for cutting hoses.
You bet, I used a little cutting wheel on a die grinder, wrapped the section I was cutting in electrical tape to help control fraying. Worked pretty well. The real test will come if they hold pressure, it'll be messy if I got it wrong
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Spent some time on another oil line, this one from the pan to the filter adapter. I put some fire shield over the nomex line as it runs close to the header and along the side of the block. One more line to make from the cooler back to the pan.

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Installed a manual headlight bracket on both sides. This elimiates the headlight motor and bar connecting the lights, frees up a fair amount of space at the expense of convenience. Acceptable for a track car.

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Last oil line made and routed, from oil cooler back to oil pan.

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I wouldnt expect the sleeving to do much with the hose, but I would definitely wrap the head tubes where they are in close proximity to those pipes.

I've a turbo down there, and had to make a fitting to get my oil pipes past it, was a bit of a nightmare really, even more so with -12 !

Cutting and trimming the pan probably would have been best option, but engine was all built up and in the car and not changing at the time.
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Good idea Stevie, I've got a big roll of left over header wrap sitting on my work bench from an old project, I'm doing that for sure.
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Oil lines near exhaust systems are a match made for hell. It should be belts and suspenders all the way. I can't tell from the picture, but is it possible to build a little something to hold that oil line a little further away from the header? It may be above it and not as close as it appears in the picture.
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Yes Michael, the top hose routes up a bit and away from the header. I've got a clamp mounted to the block forward of the cross member to keep the top line from moving towards the header. The lower line butts up against the engine mount support just forward of the cross member to keep that hose away from the headers.

The pictures do make everything appear tighter, but it's certainly tight in person as well. I'm walking the same path on this one as most of the 944hybrids forum guys. Anyone who needs to run an oil cooler (track car or race car) is sort of pencilled into this routing. I even ordered the exact fittings at the pan that everyone uses. I envy people swapping an engine into a truck or muscle car, I bet they have more room than they know what to do with.

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Also worth noting....as to how true or not, but teflon type hoses do tend to have much higher temperature ratings than other hoses.

Not sure what type of hose you are using there.
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The hose is:

Aeroquip Startlite Racing Hose

http://aeroquipperformance.com/p-24060-hoses.html

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Wow - that's just tight in there - no way around it, it appears. Would be ideal if you could fabricate a bit of aluminum heat shield to hang in between the header and the lines - keep the radiant off of it. Looking at pics on my laptop instead of phone - better view of what you're dealing with. I thought mine was tight -- hell, I've got all the room in the world!
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
Wow - that's just tight in there - no way around it, it appears. Would be ideal if you could fabricate a bit of aluminum heat shield to hang in between the header and the lines - keep the radiant off of it. Looking at pics on my laptop instead of phone - better view of what you're dealing with. I thought mine was tight -- hell, I've got all the room in the world!
+1 on the heat shield idea. Was going to suggest the same.

Could you route the hoses through some 2" diameter aluminum tubing? Or cut up some large diameter tubing as a starting point for the shield?
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Do not enclose the hoses in a metal tube, it will only act as a cooker, especially after shutdown.

As said in other threads, airflow is your friend ! Enclosing things in can work to a degree...but it can also work against you.

Wrapping the header tubes where they are close to the hose will work fine, or as some suggestions above a simple heat shield, but dont enclose the hose


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