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Old 02-17-2018, 02:55 PM
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So I put an ls1 cluster from 00 z28 into my 87 mustang. I’ve got blinkers to function along with lights and all. However my voltage gauge, oil pressure just acts weird and starts at like 60psi and then maxes the gauge once running. As for temp gauge I’m not sure if it’s working yet cause I haven’t ran it long enough. Also the tach isn’t working! I tapped into the serial data wire on the obd2 port and ran it to the cluster. Also hooked up the other needed wires to get other things to work.

To make sure it’s not a cluster issue I pulled the working one out of my trans am and it did same thing. Then put the mustang cluster in my trans am and everything functioned as it should.

Forgot to add it’s a 99-02 5.3 harness.

Anyone know what’s going on?

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To make it more confusing, with hptuners connected the tach works on my laptop.
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I want to do something similar, so please let me know what you figure out. I’m dropping a 5.3 from an 02 Silverado into a 78 Vette. The wiring harness is from an 02 WS6 already reflashed for the 5.3. My question is whether the ecu will still work with a cluster from an 01 TA? Good luck ��
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I want to do something similar, so please let me know what you figure out. I’m dropping a 5.3 from an 02 Silverado into a 78 Vette. The wiring harness is from an 02 WS6 already reflashed for the 5.3. My question is whether the ecu will still work with a cluster from an 01 TA? Good luck ��
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Originally Posted by StephenWT
I want to do something similar, so please let me know what you figure out. I’m dropping a 5.3 from an 02 Silverado into a 78 Vette. The wiring harness is from an 02 WS6 already reflashed for the 5.3. My question is whether the ecu will still work with a cluster from an 01 TA? Good luck ��
I would say you’re in much better shape since you have an f-body harness. I’m worried the 5.3 harness serial data wire doesn’t carry the same info as the f-body pcm does.
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Do you have all the wires hooked up to the cluster? What diagram did you use tor the pin outs on the cluster? Im pretty sure there is a dedicated white wire for the tach, is that hooked up to the cluster?
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
Do you have all the wires hooked up to the cluster? What diagram did you use tor the pin outs on the cluster? Im pretty sure there is a dedicated white wire for the tach, is that hooked up to the cluster?
I used this pin out and hooked up what I though needed to be.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ed-camaro.html

As for my mustang cluster I use this one on page 2:
https://www.stangnet.com/tech/cluster87-93.pdf

I’ve got the power wire hooked up and the blinkers and high beam light.

As for tach wire, an ls1 cluster doesn’t have a tach wire it’s supposed to use the serial data wire from obd2 port.
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Maybe a bad cluster?
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Originally Posted by brandon6.0
Maybe a bad cluster?
I thought about that, but checked it in my 99 trans am and it worked find besides oil pressure being off.
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How did you hookup the fuel level? Isnt the serial data controlling the fuel level?
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How did you hookup the fuel level? Isnt the serial data controlling the fuel level?
Ran it to red pin #54 on my pcm. I installed a 12 gallon fuel cell in my car with a fuel sending unit.
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Originally Posted by bjamick
Ran it to red pin #54 on my pcm. I installed a 12 gallon fuel cell in my car with a fuel sending unit.


I just installed a 2000 Camaro cluster into my lq4 2001 mustang. I had a 2000 6.0 harness. I tapped the serial wire and that gives you Fuel, coolant temp and Tach. Battery just picks the signal up from its source so as long as there is 12+ volts that should be fine. Speedo gets a signal from red connector pin 50 I believe. Oil pressure comes straight from the sensor on the block behind the intake. And just like you I ran my fuel level sensor into the pcm and recalibrated it to work correctly.


If you have the oil pressure wired correctly I'm guessing the sending unit is bad. It's pretty common especially on an old sensor. The voltage is baffling but combined with the tach maybe its a bad ground? Let the coolant come up to temp and see if its working. If its just the tach left that's acting up something from the pcm must need to be changed? I'd double check all your wiring. Are you saying the Tach comes on when hptuners is connected or that the tach in the scanner of hptuners is displaying a reading?
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So I never got this figured out. I did find out once we did a bench pcm tune that my pcm is out of a 2000 Tahoe. I know the 2000 is the bastard year and it may not carry the info needed to run the cluster is my guess. Thinking about changing pcm to a newer 01-02 or just find an fbody pcm.
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Originally Posted by bjamick
So I never got this figured out. I did find out once we did a bench pcm tune that my pcm is out of a 2000 Tahoe. I know the 2000 is the bastard year and it may not carry the info needed to run the cluster is my guess. Thinking about changing pcm to a newer 01-02 or just find an fbody pcm.
I have mine running fine with a 2000 pcm from a 2500. The only bastard pcms I've heard of were the 98 fbodys. I've had no issues with older truck pcms at all. I'd have to say something is a miss with the wiring to the cluster.
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Originally Posted by SwapStang
I have mine running fine with a 2000 pcm from a 2500. The only bastard pcms I've heard of were the 98 fbodys. I've had no issues with older truck pcms at all. I'd have to say something is a miss with the wiring to the cluster.
I went over everything and found 1 bad ground, and most importantly one the Fox body harness wires quit giving ign 12v to the cluster. So I ran a new wire to my ign fuse block and it all started working.
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Originally Posted by bjamick

I went over everything and found 1 bad ground, and most importantly one the Fox body harness wires quit giving ign 12v to the cluster. So I ran a new wire to my ign fuse block and it all started working.
WOW. So glad you got it working! As you found, few simple boo-boos can mess things up! Have a joyous Christmas!
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Originally Posted by bjamick

I went over everything and found 1 bad ground, and most importantly one the Fox body harness wires quit giving ign 12v to the cluster. So I ran a new wire to my ign fuse block and it all started working.
That’s great to hear. Damn wiring gremlins are the worst. Glad you got it figured out.
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