Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

LS powered Miata swap- Build Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 4, 2009 | 04:27 PM
  #141  
LS1-450's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 9
Default

At least you found the pedal feel issue. Rock onward; you're doing a great job. It's always interesting for me to follow these types of builds.

BTW, I'm still messing around with the suspension after 5 years. Am in the process of yet another spring rate change in an effort to find more road course speed. Always, a work in progress.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:59 PM
  #142  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

Hmm, well the pedal still doesn't feel that stiff. It is just a little harder than my Civic. I wonder if that is just how LS7 clutches are? Anyways, got everything back in the car and all wired up yesterday. Nothing was going as planned all morning, so of course it didn't fire right up. Didn't have time to check and see what was going on before i had to get ready for work. Should be shutting down early today which will give me some extra time to figure it all out hopefully. Also, you can see where i'm going to route the intake. I have some more cutting and welding to do, but the filter should sit inside the front bumper.



Reply
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 05:10 PM
  #143  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

The LS7 clutch should feel like stock.

Looks good! Cranks but no fire? have 58psi fuel pressure? Power to the coils? Power to the PCM? Can you plug a scan tool into the PCM?
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:16 PM
  #144  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

It turns over, but no spark. I have only been giving it 47ish psi of fuel pressure, so i need to turn that up. I didn't check power to the coils yet, but yesterday i did check power and switched power to the computer. I don't have a diagnostic port to plug into, but i'm going to try and stop by a junkyard on monday to pick one up. It is always something simple... and probably stupid. haha
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 12:30 AM
  #145  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

If I remember correctly, you have PCM switched power, PCM Constant power, Left bank coils, right bank coils, and the last one for everything else, but don't quote me on it. Its been about 8 months since I've picked my harness clean of all the junk and got it "stand alone" ready.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:24 AM
  #146  
NoClassic's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

Looking good.

Check your harness and motor to chassis grounds.

It really is usually that simple.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:10 AM
  #147  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

The coil ground is located at the back of the cylinder head. 15mm headed bolt
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:16 PM
  #148  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

There are 3 grounds that i have grounded to the back of the drivers side head. Every PCM ground at the computer is showing to be grounded, all 5 pink wires are getting a switched 12v, and the 2 PCM orange wires are getting a constant 12v. I am getting 12v switched to the coils, just not constant. I checked that my crank position sensor is plugged in as well as my cam position sensor. Everything seems to be wired correctly, i'm just not getting fire. I even tried switching out to a stock PCM and the same results.

Any ideas? I'm about stumped now. haha
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:20 PM
  #149  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

Time to add the ALDL connector and see what the PCM has to say. Last time mine did that, it had a bad crank position sensor.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:44 AM
  #150  
eric1h's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Default

is it getting a spark and is it getting fuel?

can you hear the fuel pump kick in? and getting enough pressure?

if it's not getting sprak I'd have to agree with above, crank sensor is a likley cause

Is the ECU programed for the right crank reluctor wheel? iee 58x vs 24x? I assume it's 24x, but you never know
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:50 AM
  #151  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
Time to add the ALDL connector and see what the PCM has to say. Last time mine did that, it had a bad crank position sensor.
Yep, that is priority #1 today. Thanks man.

Originally Posted by eric1h

if it's not getting sprak I'd have to agree with above, crank sensor is a likley cause

Is the ECU programed for the right crank reluctor wheel? iee 58x vs 24x? I assume it's 24x, but you never know
Crank sensor is what it's sounding like. It is a 2004 LS1 with a black crank sensor plug. All that spells that it should be a 24x wheel. Hopefully i will know for sure when i hook up a scan tool.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:36 PM
  #152  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

Scanner says everything is fine. There are no codes. Now i'm truly stumped and confused.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:58 PM
  #153  
LS1-450's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 9
Default

Do you have bank1 & bank2 coil connectors located correctly? Same for fuel injector connectors? Bank1 is driver side & includes engine temp sensor in that side of the harness. Are the front 02 sensors installed?

Odd that there are no codes such as neutral switch, clutch switch, air pump related stuff. What's turned off in the PCM?
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:18 PM
  #154  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

https://ls1tech.com/forums/new-ls1-o...l#post11424105

I just posted this up in hopes of someone magically having the answer. All the wiring seems to correspond with my diagrams, and was not altered from its original position in the harness. I have no clue what all was turned off in my PCM. I called the guy at Wait4Me since they put the base tune on it, but he said he didn't have time to help diagnose. Understandable i guess.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:55 PM
  #155  
LS1-450's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 9
Default

If Waitforme performance uses EFI Live, have him send you an e-mail of the tune & then post the file here. Even if not EFILive, have him send the file & the name of the software used. Then post the file in the tuning section along w/ the Swap won't start thread. I can help if he has EFI Live. If software related, could be a number of things like neutral switch feedback, clutch switch feedback, VATS...etc..
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 08:08 PM
  #156  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

Have you tested your coils to see if they are sparking?
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:30 PM
  #157  
dark_dementshun's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Hattiesburg, MS
Default

Originally Posted by LS1-450
If Waitforme performance uses EFI Live, have him send you an e-mail of the tune & then post the file here. Even if not EFILive, have him send the file & the name of the software used. Then post the file in the tuning section along w/ the Swap won't start thread. I can help if he has EFI Live. If software related, could be a number of things like neutral switch feedback, clutch switch feedback, VATS...etc..
I talked to him today and he basically said he didn't have time to help me out. I will see if he can e-mail me the tune though.

Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
Have you tested your coils to see if they are sparking?
Still no spark.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 12:26 AM
  #158  
NoClassic's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

Exactly what I would expect frome Jesse. The two conversations I had with him about a potential purchase consisted of him exhibiting surprisingly limited knowledge of the engines he tunes. Then him getting angry when I attempted to explain he was incorrect.

I just told him have a nice day and went with brian at PCMforless.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:24 AM
  #159  
tails8's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
From: Out In BFE, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by dark_dementshun
https://ls1tech.com/forums/new-ls1-o...l#post11424105

I just posted this up in hopes of someone magically having the answer. All the wiring seems to correspond with my diagrams, and was not altered from its original position in the harness. I have no clue what all was turned off in my PCM. I called the guy at Wait4Me since they put the base tune on it, but he said he didn't have time to help diagnose. Understandable i guess.
Doesn't have time huh, wow. Awesome customer service right there I tell ya.

I didn't see any mention of this though. On the fuel part when you turn the key on but not start the car. Can you hear the fuel pump prime? If not something to look at there maybe a bad relay or something.

As far as no spark I'd be interested in seeing what was done on the tune. If you can get a look at it or have some pull it and post it up that would help...

Tails
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:36 AM
  #160  
chpmnsws6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 2
From: Springfield IL
Default

Tell ya what, I'll make a deal for you. I'll trade you my running miata for your dead miata so you don't have to deal with it anymore.

Good deal eh?

My money is still on the crank/cam angle sensors. A tune won't effect start up, unless VATS has not been deleted
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE