yikes. it is Hays, America though. I'm not real sure theres a shop in that town that knows their way around an ls1 car very well. Several people, yes. hmmmm it really depends on what your time is worth. and what he's willing to pay you. if he's willing to pay you a reasonable amount, i say take it and run with it if you still feel like gettin' your swap on.

 

For a friend. Yes. Most shops charge that much to install a cam, but most shops charge 80/hour for a job like this. Would you charge your friend 80/hour?

There is NOTHING that needs to be done to the harness. Use the dash harness/instrument panel/engine harness from the donor car and put it in the new car. How the hell would that make the tach any more off than a stock tach already is? That is what I did to mine, and it reads ~100 rpms within what my autometer tach says.

Optimistic? not really. Those times are fairly realistic, if you know what you are doing. Hell, some of those are kinda longer then what it should be.

Hell, tell him to send me a pm. I'll do it for him for way less than a grand.

And why do some people not drop the tank? Because they are lazy and slow. Some people work faster than others. I've seen take an entire drop out of an f-body in under 2 hours, while it takes some people weeks. But yeah... 2 hours is kinda pushing it... make it safe and say 3. Either way, it can be done in a weekend with one person.

 

If you don't have any positive input in here, you might as well just not come back. Talking about doing this much work for $400 is ridiculous. Everyone else in here seems to be on par, and I appreciate it.

I know my time isn't worth $80/hr on this job, but I sure as hell don't work for free.

 

If your swaping the dash too that would be a lot more work. Working a few hours a day the dash swap on mine took a week alone. I did mine the hard way though by swaping the harnedd to and not just the dash. If your changing out the dash and doing the swap My estimate would be a little north of 1k depending on what else he wants.

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wait, you can't LEGALLY swap guage clusters. wouldn't that pose an issue when titling it?

are you doin anything interior swap anyway?

 

His seats are fairly worn out, but the DS seat is broken on the side. We may try to swap leathers for him, if we can get the DS seat out. We pretty much established the subframe connectors saved his body, A LOT. He espaped with only minor injuries. Without the 3"x2" tubing of the subframe connector, the car would have been a LOT more damaged.

Here's some project pics from the night. We started a little after 8pm and finished at 10:15. It was me and jwill, but we also took off a LOT of other items not needed. Both full headlight assemblies, hood, coolant box, front plate piece, radiator and fans, etc. I also fought and fought with the torque arm to get it out, because the body of the car was pushed right up against it.

We ran in to another snag, that pissed me off. The previous owner welded the LTs to the Y pipe, and the Y pipe to the catback. So we had to cut it. I don't understand why people do stupid **** like that. One small setback, many to come I'm sure.


Shitty cell phone pics, I know.



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bubble wrap makes a great creeper, not! the beer made me a little more comfortable though

 

looks good. i wish i had time / room for something like that.

 

You wanted an opinion, you got it. Just because you don't like it, doesnt make it negative. You made remarks about my opinion, and I made remarks on the fact you are trying to qoute something that you have never done. The only thing you have done is looked on the internet (because the internet is always right btw) and have gone off of that.

I HAVE done the swap and told you what I would do it for, for a friend. Hell, I'm helping a friend put an lsx in his s10, something WAY harder than a "walk through the park" lt1 -> ls1 swap, and I'm doing it for FREE, he just has to buy me food while I work on it.

I guess yours and my definition of "friend" is different.

 

easy with the call-outs there bud. i think the level of friendship between you and S-dime guy might be better than Flash and the Swap-E. but, as far as friends go, flash is a good one.

 

I wasn't trying to say that Flash is a bad friend, and I apologize if it came off that way. I was just stating that "doing a job" for a "friend" is considerably different between me and him.

 

ah. it's cool.

 

Listen man, I don't really want to argue with you over your opinion vs mine. You're right, I'm trying to quote something I've never done. That's why I asked on here what is FAIR to do it, because I've never done it before. I also said he doesn't need to pay my time for learning, because that isn't fair at all. You're right I've looked on the internet for how to do it, isn't that what this site is for? When 10 other people have done it and they all post the same method, that is fairly good material for research.

I also said "it's someone I know" and not a close friend. I've done MORE than my fair share of work for free (or like you.. "buy me supper") for other friends. And like I also said, I'm not "helping him" or "guiding him through it." I'm working on it, by myself (with the help of jwill, not the owner) while he sits around and drinks beer. He refuses to work on fbodies because they **** him off, so he hires someone else to do it.

Also when you did your swap, from what I understand, you changed the entire car over basically. Tanks, interior, dash, wiring, etc. He wants to keep the dash intact and just change the engine. There are some minor mods that are needed for that. Yours is also a T56, where this is an auto, so the tranny crossmember needs modded. Is it a big deal? No. Several small things need changed, it's not just a "bolt in."

I've helped PLENTY of friends do anything from dropping trans, dropping engines, rebuilding engines, etc. And it's always returned with help. Like I said, this isn't "helping".. it's "doing it". It's like dropping it off at a shop and picking it up when it's done, none of your own labor involved.

Anyways, I'm done with all of the BS cluttering up this thread. I'm posting up some progress pics in a minute.

 

i will buy the interior from you.... pm me a price.. just the driver seat and passanger seat. thanks

 

Couple more beers, and another motor is out!

Tomorrow the plan is to try to locate connectors and do the wiring. I'm going to be following The Merv's guide, so I hope it works out! If the wiring goes without hassle, the engine may be in tomorrow.





And you see my Mac Tools cart holding every tool needed for this swap. I love that thing, I just wish I would have bought the bigger one.

 

To the op, if it's a good friend then how bout you guys work on it together and he picks up the food and stuff, and drives you to where you need to go to get parts.

Me personally that is what me and my friends have done for each other.

With me as far as working on people's cars that I just know and that they just know me, I'll charge them a decent amount to compensate my time. Honestly though when it comes to that I'm tired of working on other people's **** when mine needs work, expecially if I'm not getting alot out of it.

 

He may be using them, we're not sure yet. What is your location?

Also, IDK if you can tell from the pics, but the plastic on the DS seat is broken where the switches are mounted. Not sure how the seat frame is, I'll figure it out tomorrow when we get the seat pulled.

 

Haha that's the deal man. It's not a "good friend," he's never done any work for me.. I just went to high school with him. With all of my other car friends, we exchange work for food, and all help eachother on our junk.

Like I said up there, it's not me HELPING him. It's DOING it. I want something to compensate for my time, like you said. My car has plenty of things that need done, that I could be doing instead of doing this. I want something FAIR for compensation, not to rip him off.

 

Sorry, I thought I posted pics of the car. Here's a few.





























Sorry for pic quality. Jwill took them when it was pitch black outside. We're planning on starting a FS add tomorrow, so if anyone wants anything particular let me know and I can be sure we get pics of it.

 

Well then I would be looking for atleast a grand..easily. I have charged $500 for just building some Harnesses.

I'm not trying to sound arrogant with this.. but the way I see it is I took the time to learn what I learned and got in there to learn the short cuts and do what I did for myself, so I have no problem with helping out anyone, but I'm not going to do the hard labor **** for just measly food or beer when it's for a person that I know wouldn't help me out on the same thing. My knowledge and experience comes at a price.

With my good friends that don't know as much as I do, yea I have no problem helping them and doing things for them cause they are right there with me and are interested in learning it so they watch and I teach them.

When it comes to someone that just knows me and my name as someone to go to for help and that is the only time I hear from them, then I'm looking for cash, and unless it's a good offer, their **** isn't exactly high-priority. Small things are no problem, I help alot with that, expecially to those on here when I get asked a question. When it comes to major things, then it's pretty much an insult in a way to hear a small offer of compensation.

I got a guy now that wants to install Headers and a Cam in a stock LT1 T/A..offered some beer and pizza. The reason it's coming apart mainly is cause the Timing Chain broke. He thinks it's only a 3-4 hour job. That's a couple of good days work, and personally I'm not going to do that for just beer, expecially when mine needs a Tranny put in it and some other things.


That's just the way I feel about it though.