Camaro accessories while keeping VVT on L92
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The Corvette accessories are closest to the block. The F-body is .75" further out and the trucks are .75" further from the block than the F-body.
Because the water pump is spaced 1.5" and the alt and ps is only spaced .75" then you need a tensioner that is .75" closer to the block than the F-body one since it mounts to the water pump. Therefore since the Vette stuff is .75" closer than the F-body the Vette tensioner is what you need.
The F-body, Vette, GTO, and CTS-V all share basically the same waterpump. The belt simply rides in different locations on the pulley depending on how far the accessories are from the block. I chose the newer style water pump from a GTO due to it having a seperate thermostat like the old style sbc motors had. The earlier water pumps had the neck integrated with the thermostat.
Because the water pump is spaced 1.5" and the alt and ps is only spaced .75" then you need a tensioner that is .75" closer to the block than the F-body one since it mounts to the water pump. Therefore since the Vette stuff is .75" closer than the F-body the Vette tensioner is what you need.
The F-body, Vette, GTO, and CTS-V all share basically the same waterpump. The belt simply rides in different locations on the pulley depending on how far the accessories are from the block. I chose the newer style water pump from a GTO due to it having a seperate thermostat like the old style sbc motors had. The earlier water pumps had the neck integrated with the thermostat.
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Because the water pump is spaced 1.5" and the alt and ps is only spaced .75" then you need a tensioner that is .75" closer to the block than the F-body one since it mounts to the water pump. Therefore since the Vette stuff is .75" closer than the F-body the Vette tensioner is what you need.
Before i found this thread I was thinking of running the f-body accessories and only spacing out the f-body water pump. I have done no mock ups yet but it looks to me like there is enough room on the f-body water pump hub to allow the bolt to run closer to the lip and maybe everything else will work. Only issue I can see thus far is the VVT wiring is pretty close to the truck balancer so I was thinking an underdrive pulley might clear but this was all speculative.
Regardless now that I see what you have done and how well it fits I dont think im going to try an reinvent the wheel here so thanks again.
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If you are still running a high volume oil pump it could be an issue running such a low volume pan. Be careful going uphill as the GTO pump suction is right at the front.
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i am "attempting" to do a similiar build. my issue is, my 96 camaro is a v6 car. so i'm having to change almost everything. i came across a good deal on an l92 engine, ls3 intake, and 2010 camaro cam. all i have so far is the computer, complete harness (including injector harness), upgraded 4l60e trans which is said to be good for 650 hp, 2500-2800 stall, 07 escalade starter, walbro 255 lph fuel pump and kit. from what i've been reading on this site, i should be looking for mostly parts from ls1 camaro. I'm guessing the speedo tach cluster from ls1 would be the correct option. my main intention for the moment is to get this thing running. I'll deal with the exhaust, rear end, upgraded brake system and suspension...etc, as i get to them. i know i need to get all the drive accessories, but from this list of stuff that i already have, what else am i missing? (besides starting with an LS car to begin with. LOL) Also I'm learning as i go, so don't assume that i should already know. I've picked up quite a bit of info from this website and others, but i still feel like i'm at the tip of the iceberg. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx
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Only thing I can add to this thread is the alternator. I have been through several. Basically what you need is small alt that wont hit the subframe but high amp. I ended up having one custom made. 200 amp but small so it will run my subwoofers, dual fans, ac system, no lag in 02 sensors, etc. They took a small alt and changed the guts. Great stuff.
Its being made today so dbelectrical@yahoo.com if you are interested. Great guys. Ask for Robbie.
Will add to post when I have the part number or PM me.
Photos here pre change, page 3. L92 160 amp alt hit frame.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41575483@N07/
Part number 8247-200 at DB electrical.
Its being made today so dbelectrical@yahoo.com if you are interested. Great guys. Ask for Robbie.
Will add to post when I have the part number or PM me.
Photos here pre change, page 3. L92 160 amp alt hit frame.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41575483@N07/
Part number 8247-200 at DB electrical.
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Here are some pictures comparing the LY6/L92 truck waterpump to the L99 Camaro waterpump. The belt contact area of the L99 waterpump pulley aligns perfectly with the truck pulley, despite the overall size of the pulley being shorter. On the backside, there is plenty of clearance for the VVT timing cover, which I assume is the same between the LY6, L92 and L99.
On the engine. This is an LY6 VVT truck engine with an LS3 intake on top. The crank pulley is the same as the L92.
The driver's side, forward outlet should make hose routing cleaner for my Nova's driver's side inlet radiator.
On the passenger side, you can see the bosses for mounting the L99 tensioner are thicker and stick out further, so the LY6/L92 tensioner will not line up. You will need an L99 specific tensioner
This picture shows the LY6/L92 tensioner on the L99 waterpump - obviously this will not work.
On the engine. This is an LY6 VVT truck engine with an LS3 intake on top. The crank pulley is the same as the L92.
The driver's side, forward outlet should make hose routing cleaner for my Nova's driver's side inlet radiator.
On the passenger side, you can see the bosses for mounting the L99 tensioner are thicker and stick out further, so the LY6/L92 tensioner will not line up. You will need an L99 specific tensioner
This picture shows the LY6/L92 tensioner on the L99 waterpump - obviously this will not work.
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DAMN IT!!! For whatever reason my 99 f-body water pump does not clear with the Mast spacers. Speaking of which they arrived with 1/4" holes so i had to drill them out. Not a huge deal but still wheres the QC there? Anyways my 07 truck wp has a pressed in back section ( whatever the pressed in disk is called on the backside of the water pump behind the impeller ) but my f-body water pump has a bolted on back section and this part hits right on the phaser hump. I tried grinding the heads off the bolts but its not enough so Im pissed now. Im either going to need another Camaro wp or perhaps step up to the 2010 Camaro pump and ditch the spacers altogether.
I was so close to jamming the engine back in too. Bummer
I was so close to jamming the engine back in too. Bummer
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I am still keeping Clints (-TheBandit-), idea of a L99 WP on the back burner.
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hahaha, i was like 'i wonder who that is'
would an f body tensioner work on the l99 water pump? or would it be as offset as the LY6/L92?
I know clint posted that in nov, but i was curious
would an f body tensioner work on the l99 water pump? or would it be as offset as the LY6/L92?
I know clint posted that in nov, but i was curious
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i'm not sure what the chances are of me getting the wrong size belt, but i asked for a 2000 camaro ss belt at the local autozone. when i installed it, it seemed a little loose. what gives? will the corvette tensioner help take up the slack? i still have the the truck water pump and tensioner installed for now, but sure if either is causing the belt to to be slack.