1967 Firebird OHC 6 to Carbed 5.3 w/ TH350
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Factory heater delete! I saw that too with heater patched back in later? And how about that outlet block on the fender well? wondering what that was doing....
Yes the 2 speed trans in that car is actually NOT a powerglide, they don't share many actual parts. This is a BOP Super turbine 2 speed. First gear is a different ratio than a powerglide as well. No point to keeping it or using it. Many of then didn't even use fluid cooler lines just a couple of holes drilled in the bell for air flow!
I would have painted the block Pontiac metallic blue as a nod to the Pontiac chassis and a double take kind of visual effect =) But it still looks sharp with the orange.
I look forward to seeing more progress.
Factory heater delete! I saw that too with heater patched back in later? And how about that outlet block on the fender well? wondering what that was doing....
Yes the 2 speed trans in that car is actually NOT a powerglide, they don't share many actual parts. This is a BOP Super turbine 2 speed. First gear is a different ratio than a powerglide as well. No point to keeping it or using it. Many of then didn't even use fluid cooler lines just a couple of holes drilled in the bell for air flow!
I would have painted the block Pontiac metallic blue as a nod to the Pontiac chassis and a double take kind of visual effect =) But it still looks sharp with the orange.
I look forward to seeing more progress.
And the outlet block on the inner fender? Some backyard hack had wired in an electric Airplane heater to the center "hump" and ran house wiring to run it. That all came out in the first hour of my owning it lol. The aftermarket Sears under-dash heater is going too, I think i'm going to leave it heater delete.
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Just decoded the VIN printed on the firewall, and although I all ready knew most of this, it's still interesting
From the Factory it had:
-Heater Delete (In Alaska ???. Car was from Hawaii Though, still has HI inspection Stickers on the back bumper)
-2 Speed Auto Transmission
-230CI OHC 6 with 1-BBL carb rated @ 165 hp
-Cameo Ivory Paint
-Dark Blue Vinyl Interior.
-2.56 Rear End, Non- Locking / Non- Posi
Apparently the car has had a lot of work done to it in the past, but some of its pretty bad. At least I'm making it better
From the Factory it had:
-Heater Delete (In Alaska ???. Car was from Hawaii Though, still has HI inspection Stickers on the back bumper)
-2 Speed Auto Transmission
-230CI OHC 6 with 1-BBL carb rated @ 165 hp
-Cameo Ivory Paint
-Dark Blue Vinyl Interior.
-2.56 Rear End, Non- Locking / Non- Posi
Apparently the car has had a lot of work done to it in the past, but some of its pretty bad. At least I'm making it better
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What was the heater delete plate in the center panel inside? I can't tell in the pics, where the controls would have been, is it black pebble plastic?
Can you post a close up of that?
I'm enjoying the thread for sure! I've got a 68 Firebird apart in the garage. But as far as LS engines, I'm just finishing up a swap. L92 into a 1990 RX7. Swaps are a lot of fun!
Can you post a close up of that?
I'm enjoying the thread for sure! I've got a 68 Firebird apart in the garage. But as far as LS engines, I'm just finishing up a swap. L92 into a 1990 RX7. Swaps are a lot of fun!
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What was the heater delete plate in the center panel inside? I can't tell in the pics, where the controls would have been, is it black pebble plastic?
Can you post a close up of that?
I'm enjoying the thread for sure! I've got a 68 Firebird apart in the garage. But as far as LS engines, I'm just finishing up a swap. L92 into a 1990 RX7. Swaps are a lot of fun!
Can you post a close up of that?
I'm enjoying the thread for sure! I've got a 68 Firebird apart in the garage. But as far as LS engines, I'm just finishing up a swap. L92 into a 1990 RX7. Swaps are a lot of fun!
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Well, the car took a nice little vacation from this arctic weather to it's homeland of Hawaii today. Well, it might not have made it to Hawaii, but it sure saw a lot of sand. A good portion of the day was spent sand blasting the front of the body, core support, door jambs, rocker panels, window channels, trunk weatherstrip channels, and rear deck filler. All the rust that was there is now gone!
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But did it ever make a mess. All nice and cleaned up now, but there was practically a beach in the back seat (haha!).
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All that I have to do now is fix the rust pitting in the dash window channel, finish up the body work, and it's ready for paint. Just put in another order with summit, so the engine is becoming more and more complete. More to come on that later.
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But did it ever make a mess. All nice and cleaned up now, but there was practically a beach in the back seat (haha!).
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All that I have to do now is fix the rust pitting in the dash window channel, finish up the body work, and it's ready for paint. Just put in another order with summit, so the engine is becoming more and more complete. More to come on that later.
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Well, been hard at work on the firebird over the last week or so. The body is perfect now; I've spent a lot of time blocking it to perfection. Right now it has been completely wet sanded and is ready for me to lay down paint tomorrow!
These pictures are from a couple of days ago, after I put the first 2 coats of Primer Surfacer down and guide coated it.
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I've also found the color and got that mixed up at Hi-Tec paint, the local PPG distributor here in Anchorage. The color that I'm using is a Stock 67 camaro color, Marina Blue. It's a custom color match that looks absolutely perfect. I'm using PPG Deltron 2000 Paint with a DT860 Reducer for the basecoat.
Here's what the color looks like, I painted the gas door separately before I did the whole car to make sure the color was right
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I'll post more pictures of it once I get done with the paint!
These pictures are from a couple of days ago, after I put the first 2 coats of Primer Surfacer down and guide coated it.
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I've also found the color and got that mixed up at Hi-Tec paint, the local PPG distributor here in Anchorage. The color that I'm using is a Stock 67 camaro color, Marina Blue. It's a custom color match that looks absolutely perfect. I'm using PPG Deltron 2000 Paint with a DT860 Reducer for the basecoat.
Here's what the color looks like, I painted the gas door separately before I did the whole car to make sure the color was right
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I'll post more pictures of it once I get done with the paint!
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Also, a little tech update. After a very merry christmas
, I'm now going to use a 700R4 Auto Trans to drive the 5.3. Since it has an electronic speedometer output, I decided to go with the cable-x speedometer converter to use the stock gauges.
I also got a kit to convert the Torque converter lock-up to work in overdrive with non-computer controlled engines.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRF-60109/
This should be interesting to see how this works, but hopefully a 700R4 will give me better gas mileage than a TH350...
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I also got a kit to convert the Torque converter lock-up to work in overdrive with non-computer controlled engines.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRF-60109/
This should be interesting to see how this works, but hopefully a 700R4 will give me better gas mileage than a TH350...
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That lockup kit will work ok. I have tried different ones over the years and it seems to me the best is the B&M kit. It is speed controlled instead of vacuum. With the vacuum kits, the convertor will want to unlock a lot more than it needs to. Every time you come to a small hill and press the gas pedal a little, it will probably unlock the convertor with the vacuum kit, even when it didn't really need to. The speed controlled kit is adjustable so you can set the lockup at whatever speed you desire, up to 90mph.
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That lockup kit will work ok. I have tried different ones over the years and it seems to me the best is the B&M kit. It is speed controlled instead of vacuum. With the vacuum kits, the convertor will want to unlock a lot more than it needs to. Every time you come to a small hill and press the gas pedal a little, it will probably unlock the convertor with the vacuum kit, even when it didn't really need to. The speed controlled kit is adjustable so you can set the lockup at whatever speed you desire, up to 90mph.
I have to wonder if there is a way to adjust the vacuum pressure on the painless wiring ones so it will stay locked up longer until there is a bigger drop in the vacuum... If not at least it'll help with mileage on the highway
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Well, spent the last few days painting the body of the firebird, and this is how it turned out.
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Came out pretty good after the initial wet sand and buff, but it still needs some work before it gets a completely perfect shine.
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Came out pretty good after the initial wet sand and buff, but it still needs some work before it gets a completely perfect shine.
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Today I got the engine and transmission out, so now it's ready for some subframe and firewall work, then I can start retrofitting the 5.3 in it.
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Came out pretty easy, everything was out within a couple of hours. Anyone want to buy a BOP Super Turbine 300?
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Came out pretty easy, everything was out within a couple of hours. Anyone want to buy a BOP Super Turbine 300?
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Got the subframe all cleaned up and painted it with POR-15. Came out pretty good!
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Now for the engine work. I sectioned the stock truck oil pan to fit better in the firebird as well as modify the oil pickup tube to clear the smaller oil pan.
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Now for the engine work. I sectioned the stock truck oil pan to fit better in the firebird as well as modify the oil pickup tube to clear the smaller oil pan.
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I also installed a custom ground camshaft from Cam Motion that I had lying around from another project. It's a 208/214 .510/.523 114 lsa, so that should wake it up a bit. No pics of that though...
I also installed the engine so I can fit it to the transmission.
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The engine installed pretty painlessly, although I did have to add some spacers to the subframe mounts to get the holes to line up. Oh well, guess that what you get with mounts made in Taiwan...
I also installed the engine so I can fit it to the transmission.
![](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/Ajokela/DSC_0066Large.jpg)
The engine installed pretty painlessly, although I did have to add some spacers to the subframe mounts to get the holes to line up. Oh well, guess that what you get with mounts made in Taiwan...