i'm sure the engine is pre 04 , i had it since then and i completly rebuilt it so it was bone dry . as for the barbell , its there ( i did that before and i learned my lesson ).

the porsche oil sender is on the remote filter mount , but that has about 2 feet of -10 hose leading from it to the oil port/ passage on the block.

i'll get a guage and figure out a way to plumb it in

 

I suggest looking into an accusump.

--JMarsa

 

An accusump would be great for this project but if he cannot get oil pressure, the engine cannot fill the accusump.

Z if you decide you want an accusump, let me know. I work for Canton (the manafacturer of the accusump)

Just pm me. PM me and of your oiling woes that you have issues with. Im sure I can figure that out.

 

thanks for the offer nemisis , i'm planning on running one eventually , when i do get to that stage i'll definatly take you up on that offer


well i took another swing at it : i got me a new guage , plumbed it where the porsche one was ( on the filter housing) and tryed again ,,,, no luck

so i decided to take the pan off and see if the pickup tube oring was cut or not , and to pack some grease into the pump to help it prime. whell when i started taking the hoses off oil started coming out of them , which indicated there was some pressure. and when i dropped the pan i noticed there were some shavings ( very small) in the bottom ; this got me concerened as to where they came from , it didn't look like bearing material , so just to make sure i took number 7 rod cap off and looked , the bearing looked perfect , not a sigle scar on it. which leasd my to belive there was some pressure but not enough to register on the guage. and the oring looked perfect .

so i thought time to pack the oil pump , so i took the pick up tube off and started shoving grease into the pump . off course i did look inthere to see if there was any sign of damage to the teeth of the pump but could not tell from the angle i was looking at.

i then proceeded to bolt everything up and put 8 quarts of oil in and fired it up again , but still no pressure

after bangining my head on the wall for a few minutes i remebered that i forget something ! i should have checked pickup tube clearance (pan to pickup strainer) before i bolted the pan on.

so now i'm stuck with no oil pressure but with a running engine ,,,, talk about a tease !

so the plan now is to figure this out in the most efficient manner , so first i compiled a lift of possible problem areas or issues that can lead to this , please feel free to add in what ever i missed :

- oil pan to strainer clerance
- oil pump oring
- oil pump not packed with grease to help prime it
- relife valve stuck on oil pump
- bad oil pump lobes or teeth
- pump did not seat well on block ( i used spacers on it to clear the double chain- which could also be the source of the shavings)
- barbell missing on back of block ( i'm starting to doubt myself)
- plug missing on front of block


so inorder to make this as painless as possible ( im really getting sick of removing and installing the balancer ) i'll be doing the following : ( see i'm using what i think i learned in collge here ! - process engineering and effeciency crap )

- drain the oil - again
- drop the pan and check for clearance using some clay
- if clearance check ot ok , move on to the next step
- remove the rear bumper and lines to gain access to the front of the engine
- remove every thing from the front of the engine ( damn balancer, water pump , alt.)
- check that the plug is in there
- remove oil pump and inspect , and most likely replace it ( melling) wth an OEM 6.2 pump and pack the crap out of that one
- put everything back in place
- go do some good deeds; give to the poor , help old grannies cross the street , be pias (sp) for a few days and pray like there is no tommorow that i get some oil pressure
- check for pressure again .

now if all that fails then i have a major issue , which means i have to drop both engine and trans to fix the barbell .

i'll be doing this probably within the next week or so , cause i have a race in bahrain coming up and the camaro needs some love

forgot to mention that i finally got the power steering pump and lines in :0 so that gets scratched off the list !

 

lmao @ piousness on the list of possible fixes.

wish i could provide some help.. at least the mini harness is done, right

 

Not exactly ,i just have three wires connected to it : the starter wire , oil pressure switch and oil pressure guage signal . i'll be finishing it nect time i get there ( how many times have i said that already? )


i did get a stock pump and will be installing that as soon as i get there , but before doing so i want to check on the relief valve spring in the pump , for some reason i'm thinking there is no spring in there . i'll ckeck the box for springs first then i still can check the pump from the looks of it without removing the timing cover , but we'll see how it goes when i get there.

i also just ordered a few things for the car like tail lights , suspension braces ,and coolant hoses (heater tubes) and alot of other little things here and there.

 

I'm glad it lives. The small details like oil pressure are easy compared to the ground you have already crossed.

 

well the small issue just got a bit bigger ,,,,,,

i dropped the pan again and checked for pickup tube to pan clearance and it came out to 1/4" which is pretty good . so i took the balancer out again , pulled the timing cover off and took ther pump off , i also checked it the spring was in there , and it was. so i swapped the oil pump with a factory unit that i packed with grease and bolted that in.

i filled it with oil again and fired it up again but no luck , still no pressure .
onething i noticed is that when i dropped the pan the first time , i saw grease coming out of the hose going to the filter , so it did make it at least to the hose .

i also took out the filter and found grease in there but the hose going from the cooler to the pan had no oil in it .

so this leaves me with one last thing to check , which is the dumbell plug at the rear of the engine, which means i have to drop both trans and engine inorder to get to it.

but as i was heading home i thought of something, i was wondering if i can check to see if the dumbell is in there by removing the oil galley plug at the back of the engine ( kinda where the crank sensor would be but on the other side) and taking a peak . what do you guys think?

this is really pissing me off now , it is so annoying to know that you are almost there and then having to rip it appart.

 

after doing some research ( messing on google ) i found this pic :

http://image.carcraft.com/f/31241484...ine_build+.jpg

apparently you can see it if you remove the rear allen plug.

 

Was just about to tell you that. I have checked this way in the past. Did you check for the freeze plug in the front when the cover was off?

 

yes i did and it was still there .

one quick and stupid question : is the oil filter directional? would it matter from where the oil came into and out of the filter?

cause from what i recall i have the oil feed line into the filter feeds the center of the filter and then goes out from the sides of the filter tot he oil cooler then back into the engine ( which is the opposite of stock flow)

 

That won't work. Oil must enter the filter through the small radial holes (sides) & comes out through the center. That's your anti-drain back &/or spring relief system in the filter. If you try to fill from the center, oil will not come out. The oil is trapped under the spring loaded one way diaphram.

 

well i just got off the phone with kurt and he did confirm that if i had the filter plumbed backwards it will not build pressure. which explains why i found grease in the pickup tube after i dropped the pan the last time !

man do i feel relived, all i have to do is swap hoses and the problem should be fixed !!!

 

looool you beat me to it LS450 ! thanks for chiming in

 

Glad to hear your getting it figured out, I'm ready to see this thing in action.

 

Was gonna say, "Isn't that what I just said?" Thought you were asking me since we were in the process of discussing it, LOL . Am so glad that's all that it was. You've put too much into the build to end up w/ any MAJOR issues. Rock on brother. She sure is gettin' close & am anxiously awaiting her first drive.

 

the disscusion was confusing , i would read your post only after i posted mine since my rowser doesn't automaticall refresh the page

tell me about being anxious, after i found out what the issue was i was about to go back to the garage ( about 30 miles away from where i live) right then ,,, then being 1:30 AM

and to make things worse , i'm traveling out of town today and won't be back till thursday evening

 

bring the harness with you!

 

well some goosd news to report : i swapped the oil lines going to the remote pump ans sure enough there was oil pressure but not content with that i had to make sure so i took the valve cover off and let it idle a bit while raising the idle a bit and a few seconds later i got some oil up there !

i got a vid of it ideling i just have to upload it and will post it soon .

i still have to take out the damn balancer again!! the car is leaking from the front main seal , so i have to loosen the cover bolts and and center it then put everything back again .

and funny how the human brain works ,,, you would think mine would be busy thinking about how to fix the oil pressure problem and other current issues ,,,, but not the rock between my ears i think i now know where and how to mount the twin turbos while still retaining the current mufflers ! but more on that later


so lets see,,, next up is :
-fix the front main seal
-get a serp. belt on there,
-fix the ABS wire under the car
-start routing the AC line
-bleed the brakes and clutch


and as soon as i get the parts i ordered in i can :
-seal up the fuel sending unit and call the fuel system done
-connect the heater hoses under the car to the pump
-find a place to install the water temp sensor and wire it and call the cooling system done
-install the tail lights
-start messing with the rear bumper
-finish the interior by installing the door panel, steering wheel, rear panel, and seats
-other assorted odds and ends

 

Good news regarding the oil pressure. Ha, Ha on the turbo thoughts.