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Old 02-12-2011, 09:57 PM
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The ac isn't hooked up yet. But I am confident it'll work fine.
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Worked on the car till 2:30 or so this morning. dum
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Here is the replacementdum





And here's the new uppers and lowers with the drop spindles, new stock height springs and 13" disc brakesdum



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Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
no because a sway bar doesn't let the car lean by putting opposite force on the other side of the car.

when the bag set up being individually regulated the car doesn't roll like it would if the front bags were joined together. if you join the front two bags the air would transfer from one side to the other causing the car to lean even more.
Any steel spring does that. And they still use sway bars.

But yes, separating them is better than connecting them. Although my old air shocks were pretty stiff anyway.

Nice project. Years ago my 2 owner 69 camaro was totaled by a Judge that looked exactly like that.
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Originally Posted by terryr
Years ago my 2 owner 69 camaro was totaled by a Judge that looked exactly like that.
That's a horrible story! My buddy had a lady run a stop sign and T-Bone his original 66 GT350 Fastback. BUT two classics colliding? That's enough to make you sick!
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Got the car put bak together and as I pulled out on the street the car shifted I to 2nd and popped. Then I lost drive. dumI can put it in 1st and take off and manually shift it even went on the highway fine in OD but won't take off in D. dum We assume that when the rear end broke it must have taken a part of the tranny out. dumWe are thinking maybe the sprag but we aren't tranny guys so looks like we will be pulling the tranny soon too see what happendum
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Hey 71chevy and David. There's a group of people meeting at Sonic at 7-10 or so.tonight. Y'all come out. I'll be in the judge ( I'm going to limp it over there haha )
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Nice meeting ya.

The meet was kinda weak but nice talking to ya and some other guys.
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I think I missed out on a meet earlier... thought the Chevelle isn't back on the road it definitely would've been nice to see a couple cars.
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It's everything Thursday at the sonic on Frankfort and old Denton. Come out next week. I prob won't be there though because hopefully I'll be putting my tranny back in after it's rebuilt
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we are pulling the transmission tomorrow

this weekend all I did was get the tach working and wired up the electric cut out.
I put the cut out switch in the glove box

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back up!!! how did you get the hood tach working?!?!?!?!?
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The ls1 computer basically has a 4cyl output. My tuner changed the signal to work with a v8 tach. ( like when you get an autometer tach and have to cut the looped wires for some cars).

I'll find out what he changed and let you know
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That's a good looking car with an even better looking swap in it! hopefully you'll be seeing my ride with an lq4 in it one of these days. Till then I guess I will just have to drool over more cars like yours Anyways keep us posted on what happens when you get that trans back together.
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Thanks. Hopefully I'll be driving it home to tonight I just landed at DFW airport ( had to fly to Indy for a meeting ) and I'm goin home to get changed and heading to the shop to work on the GTO
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hows the car coming?
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Put in the new bad *** rear end. Pulled out of the shop and BANG. Tranny popped. Pulled it apart to find that the sprag broke. While we were I there we saw that the guy that supposedly installed my transgo hd2 kit didn't do anything at all. So I upgraded a bunch of stuff. The tranny is back together and ready to be bolted back in the car. Jut have to find the time

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Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
Put in the new bad *** rear end. Pulled out of the shop and BANG. Tranny popped. Pulled it apart to find that the sprig broke. While we were I there we saw that the guy that supposedly installed my transgo hd2 kit didn't do anything at all. So I upgraded a bunch of stuff. The tranny is back together and ready to be bolted back in the car. Jut have to find the time
****..... that is the worst sh*t, half azz job, that pisses me off....

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I am not too happy myself. Unfortunately it's a customer of my dads so I can't do a lot about it. But I have made it known that I know and I expect at least my parts back ( about $100 worth)
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Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
Put in the new bad *** rear end. Pulled out of the shop and BANG. Tranny popped. Pulled it apart to find that the sprig broke. While we were I there we saw that the guy that supposedly installed my transgo hd2 kit didn't do anything at all. So I upgraded a bunch of stuff. The tranny is back together and ready to be bolted back in the car. Jut have to find the time
that is seriously ph&$ked up. sorry to hear that
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OK... so its been a while since I've updated this thread because nothing GOOD has happen lately...

so we know the tranny broke when the rear end did.. and we know that the original tranny guy didn't install the shift kit (which he finally gave me $200 back)

so a friend of mine that isn't a transmission guy, but has rebuilt several and knows a lot about what to do to make them last, said he would help me out. Since we were going to be in the tranny to replace the sprag there are other week points of these 4L60e's so he suggested going ahead and upgrading those while we were there.

I bought a new sun shell, case saver, another transgo HD2 shift kit, forward clutches and steels, torlon check *****, new double cage sprag, aluminum 1-2 accumulator piston, seals, 3-4 z-pak, hardened rings for the pump, a transgo no yo yo kit (to help the pump when in higher RPMs, and he also had me get some other valve things but can't remember right now what they are for

so we put it all together and put it in the car. I took it for a test drive and it ran and shifted great. We went back to the shop to let John drive it and the first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped.. but the 1 and 2 gears were still fine. he brought it back and we called it a night.

pulled it the next night to find that the new z-pak was toasted... so the next day we went with a different set up and put in the 3-4 clutch stack like a 4l65e has (8 or 9 clutches instead of just 6 like the 4l60e)
put the tranny in and first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped so went straight back to the shop and pulled the tranny out again and pulled the pump out because it was making some noise and we figure it HAS to be something pressure related.

The pump did show some signs of wear so we went to a buddy's house and got another pump that was apart. We cleaned it up and put it back together. put the tranny back together and put it back in the car (twice in one night we did a shallow rebuild and install)

backed out of the shop and put it in D and 1 and 2nd both slipped. So I went straight to the bay door and we put the car up for the night (this was 3:30am this morning)

SO... now I don't know what I want to do next...I really thinking I should just buy a built 4l60e and see what I can get out of mine seeing how it has all these good upgraded parts.

UGH.. the life of a hot rod I guess, but I HAVE to get this thing going because Good Guys is in 10 days!

any suggestions?


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