1969 GTO Judge Clone LQ4 turbo 4L60e
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OK... so its been a while since I've updated this thread because nothing GOOD has happen lately...
so we know the tranny broke when the rear end did.. and we know that the original tranny guy didn't install the shift kit (which he finally gave me $200 back)
so a friend of mine that isn't a transmission guy, but has rebuilt several and knows a lot about what to do to make them last, said he would help me out. Since we were going to be in the tranny to replace the sprag there are other week points of these 4L60e's so he suggested going ahead and upgrading those while we were there.
I bought a new sun shell, case saver, another transgo HD2 shift kit, forward clutches and steels, torlon check *****, new double cage sprag, aluminum 1-2 accumulator piston, seals, 3-4 z-pak, hardened rings for the pump, a transgo no yo yo kit (to help the pump when in higher RPMs, and he also had me get some other valve things but can't remember right now what they are for![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
so we put it all together and put it in the car. I took it for a test drive and it ran and shifted great. We went back to the shop to let John drive it and the first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped.. but the 1 and 2 gears were still fine. he brought it back and we called it a night.
pulled it the next night to find that the new z-pak was toasted... so the next day we went with a different set up and put in the 3-4 clutch stack like a 4l65e has (8 or 9 clutches instead of just 6 like the 4l60e)
put the tranny in and first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped so went straight back to the shop and pulled the tranny out again and pulled the pump out because it was making some noise and we figure it HAS to be something pressure related.
The pump did show some signs of wear so we went to a buddy's house and got another pump that was apart. We cleaned it up and put it back together. put the tranny back together and put it back in the car (twice in one night we did a shallow rebuild and install)
backed out of the shop and put it in D and 1 and 2nd both slipped. So I went straight to the bay door and we put the car up for the night (this was 3:30am this morning)
SO... now I don't know what I want to do next...I really thinking I should just buy a built 4l60e and see what I can get out of mine seeing how it has all these good upgraded parts.
UGH.. the life of a hot rod I guess, but I HAVE to get this thing going because Good Guys is in 10 days!
any suggestions?
so we know the tranny broke when the rear end did.. and we know that the original tranny guy didn't install the shift kit (which he finally gave me $200 back)
so a friend of mine that isn't a transmission guy, but has rebuilt several and knows a lot about what to do to make them last, said he would help me out. Since we were going to be in the tranny to replace the sprag there are other week points of these 4L60e's so he suggested going ahead and upgrading those while we were there.
I bought a new sun shell, case saver, another transgo HD2 shift kit, forward clutches and steels, torlon check *****, new double cage sprag, aluminum 1-2 accumulator piston, seals, 3-4 z-pak, hardened rings for the pump, a transgo no yo yo kit (to help the pump when in higher RPMs, and he also had me get some other valve things but can't remember right now what they are for
![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
so we put it all together and put it in the car. I took it for a test drive and it ran and shifted great. We went back to the shop to let John drive it and the first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped.. but the 1 and 2 gears were still fine. he brought it back and we called it a night.
pulled it the next night to find that the new z-pak was toasted... so the next day we went with a different set up and put in the 3-4 clutch stack like a 4l65e has (8 or 9 clutches instead of just 6 like the 4l60e)
put the tranny in and first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped so went straight back to the shop and pulled the tranny out again and pulled the pump out because it was making some noise and we figure it HAS to be something pressure related.
The pump did show some signs of wear so we went to a buddy's house and got another pump that was apart. We cleaned it up and put it back together. put the tranny back together and put it back in the car (twice in one night we did a shallow rebuild and install)
backed out of the shop and put it in D and 1 and 2nd both slipped. So I went straight to the bay door and we put the car up for the night (this was 3:30am this morning)
SO... now I don't know what I want to do next...I really thinking I should just buy a built 4l60e and see what I can get out of mine seeing how it has all these good upgraded parts.
UGH.. the life of a hot rod I guess, but I HAVE to get this thing going because Good Guys is in 10 days!
any suggestions?
4L80E ( I know some guys who have dropped pure factory units out of the junkyards with low miles, some changed the converter and rolled.... beat the hell out of them.... Driveshaft,crossmeber,mount, etc...mods, maybe tunnel mod...
You can have ptc,Edge, etc... or most converter companies change the nose to be half 4L60/65E and 4L80E so the bolt pattern will match a LS2 4L60/65E flywheel....
Or since your in D-town area holla at Jake....
Bozz
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who's jake?
Performabuilt 4L65E
4L80E ( I know some guys who have dropped pure factory units out of the junkyards with low miles, some changed the converter and rolled.... beat the hell out of them.... Driveshaft,crossmeber,mount, etc...mods, maybe tunnel mod...
You can have ptc,Edge, etc... or most converter companies change the nose to be half 4L60/65E and 4L80E so the bolt pattern will match a LS2 4L60/65E flywheel....
Or since your in D-town area holla at Jake....
Bozz
4L80E ( I know some guys who have dropped pure factory units out of the junkyards with low miles, some changed the converter and rolled.... beat the hell out of them.... Driveshaft,crossmeber,mount, etc...mods, maybe tunnel mod...
You can have ptc,Edge, etc... or most converter companies change the nose to be half 4L60/65E and 4L80E so the bolt pattern will match a LS2 4L60/65E flywheel....
Or since your in D-town area holla at Jake....
Bozz
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Great to hear it's going back together, I just reread your thread and couldn't find much on the wiring harness, did you modify it yourself or send it out? I'm curious if you modified it yourself, what you had to change to make the trans connections?
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Bozz
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It was nice meeting you guys at GG. Tell john I have a bracket for him when ever he gets ready.
My wife failed to get any autocross footage of me running the cutlass. We did manage some video of our big track run but it's kind of boring sense the pace car was holding 60 mph.
My wife failed to get any autocross footage of me running the cutlass. We did manage some video of our big track run but it's kind of boring sense the pace car was holding 60 mph.