Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

1969 GTO Judge Clone LQ4 turbo 4L60e

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-2011, 10:46 AM
  #241  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

oh but the good news is that we can pull the tranny in about 20 mins.. I guess thats good... sucks that we have to be that good at it though haha
Old 03-08-2011, 10:57 AM
  #242  
TECH Enthusiast
 
bozzhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: REALITY
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
OK... so its been a while since I've updated this thread because nothing GOOD has happen lately...

so we know the tranny broke when the rear end did.. and we know that the original tranny guy didn't install the shift kit (which he finally gave me $200 back)

so a friend of mine that isn't a transmission guy, but has rebuilt several and knows a lot about what to do to make them last, said he would help me out. Since we were going to be in the tranny to replace the sprag there are other week points of these 4L60e's so he suggested going ahead and upgrading those while we were there.

I bought a new sun shell, case saver, another transgo HD2 shift kit, forward clutches and steels, torlon check *****, new double cage sprag, aluminum 1-2 accumulator piston, seals, 3-4 z-pak, hardened rings for the pump, a transgo no yo yo kit (to help the pump when in higher RPMs, and he also had me get some other valve things but can't remember right now what they are for

so we put it all together and put it in the car. I took it for a test drive and it ran and shifted great. We went back to the shop to let John drive it and the first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped.. but the 1 and 2 gears were still fine. he brought it back and we called it a night.

pulled it the next night to find that the new z-pak was toasted... so the next day we went with a different set up and put in the 3-4 clutch stack like a 4l65e has (8 or 9 clutches instead of just 6 like the 4l60e)
put the tranny in and first time it shifted into 3rd it slipped so went straight back to the shop and pulled the tranny out again and pulled the pump out because it was making some noise and we figure it HAS to be something pressure related.

The pump did show some signs of wear so we went to a buddy's house and got another pump that was apart. We cleaned it up and put it back together. put the tranny back together and put it back in the car (twice in one night we did a shallow rebuild and install)

backed out of the shop and put it in D and 1 and 2nd both slipped. So I went straight to the bay door and we put the car up for the night (this was 3:30am this morning)

SO... now I don't know what I want to do next...I really thinking I should just buy a built 4l60e and see what I can get out of mine seeing how it has all these good upgraded parts.

UGH.. the life of a hot rod I guess, but I HAVE to get this thing going because Good Guys is in 10 days!

any suggestions?
Performabuilt 4L65E

4L80E ( I know some guys who have dropped pure factory units out of the junkyards with low miles, some changed the converter and rolled.... beat the hell out of them.... Driveshaft,crossmeber,mount, etc...mods, maybe tunnel mod...

You can have ptc,Edge, etc... or most converter companies change the nose to be half 4L60/65E and 4L80E so the bolt pattern will match a LS2 4L60/65E flywheel....

Or since your in D-town area holla at Jake....



Bozz
Old 03-08-2011, 11:24 AM
  #243  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

who's jake?

Originally Posted by bozzhawg
Performabuilt 4L65E

4L80E ( I know some guys who have dropped pure factory units out of the junkyards with low miles, some changed the converter and rolled.... beat the hell out of them.... Driveshaft,crossmeber,mount, etc...mods, maybe tunnel mod...

You can have ptc,Edge, etc... or most converter companies change the nose to be half 4L60/65E and 4L80E so the bolt pattern will match a LS2 4L60/65E flywheel....

Or since your in D-town area holla at Jake....



Bozz
Old 03-08-2011, 11:33 AM
  #244  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
David21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You need a 4l80 or just put a turbo 400 in it.
Old 03-08-2011, 12:01 PM
  #245  
TECH Enthusiast
 
bozzhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: REALITY
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
who's jake?
pm sent


Bozz
Old 03-08-2011, 12:19 PM
  #246  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by David21
You need a 4l80 or just put a turbo 400 in it.
i don't have the room with out cutting the tunnel and that isn't an option.... YET
Old 03-08-2011, 12:19 PM
  #247  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by bozzhawg
pm sent


Bozz
got it, Thanks Bozz
Old 03-16-2011, 11:02 PM
  #248  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Just got the trans back tonight. I'll be putting it in tomorrow. Hopefully everything goes well and I'll be at Good Guys Friday - Sunday
Old 03-17-2011, 08:28 AM
  #249  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

a place up in Gainesville. he's one of my dad's customers and supposedly build bad *** transmissions. great guy and didn't make me wait 2 or 3 weeks lilke some other places were going to
Old 03-17-2011, 09:31 AM
  #250  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
Agent_Orange_Shuvel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Idaho
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great to hear it's going back together, I just reread your thread and couldn't find much on the wiring harness, did you modify it yourself or send it out? I'm curious if you modified it yourself, what you had to change to make the trans connections?
Old 03-17-2011, 10:25 AM
  #251  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I used the harness from PSI. Awesome quality
Old 03-17-2011, 10:39 AM
  #252  
TECH Enthusiast
 
bozzhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: REALITY
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail
a place up in Gainesville. he's one of my dad's customers and supposedly build bad *** transmissions. great guy and didn't make me wait 2 or 3 weeks lilke some other places were going to
Cool, its just tuff to make those 4L60's live with the boost, but you should be fine.....

Bozz
Old 03-17-2011, 03:08 PM
  #253  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
David21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Boost is much easier on a drivetrain than a n/a setup or nitrous setup atleast.

Torque from those setups **** stuff up.
Old 03-18-2011, 01:07 AM
  #254  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

IT'S ALIVE... got the tranny in and new front springs and its good to go for Good Guys Fri-Sun... nothing like waiting until the last minute

Old 03-18-2011, 07:37 AM
  #255  
TECH Enthusiast
 
bozzhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: REALITY
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

"I think it works now" PRICELESS......lol





Bozz
Old 03-18-2011, 10:01 AM
  #256  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
Agent_Orange_Shuvel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Idaho
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

alright that will suffice for now, but we expect more videos asap! lol
Old 03-18-2011, 10:19 PM
  #257  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
98 4X4 burban's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was the one filming the burn out. we told him it was still acting up in a text then sent the burnout vid.
Old 03-19-2011, 08:22 AM
  #258  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (11)
 
BanditDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 98 4X4 burban
I was the one filming the burn out. we told him it was still acting up in a text then sent the burnout vid.
LOL....nice...must be a great feeling of relief...now go beat the F out of it!!!
Old 03-19-2011, 11:22 PM
  #259  
TECH Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
2165 Turbo Rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I didn't make it to tech in time but here are my friends John with the wagon and TJ with the '36 both are also turbo 6l set



[youtube]sMDtHjLqIYM[/youtube]

[youtube]Ku6Q6sYpoyk[/youtube]

Last edited by 2165 Turbo Rail; 03-19-2011 at 11:33 PM.
Old 03-21-2011, 10:07 AM
  #260  
TECH Resident
 
rockytopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It was nice meeting you guys at GG. Tell john I have a bracket for him when ever he gets ready.

My wife failed to get any autocross footage of me running the cutlass. We did manage some video of our big track run but it's kind of boring sense the pace car was holding 60 mph.


Quick Reply: 1969 GTO Judge Clone LQ4 turbo 4L60e



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:47 PM.