92 Supra 6 Point Slow
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92 Supra 6 Point Slow
I suppose I should throw this up. The turbo 7m was good while it lasted but couldnt hold up to the abuse the car was getting. So I decided to do an Lq4 Swap.
Heres the Details
Stock Lq4
Th400 with shiftkit
Ati 3500 stall convertor with anti balooning plate
Factory 4:30 Lsd
Ls1 intake and injectors
3" Core Alum rad w/ 14" twin fans
The plan for right now is to just get it running then probably going with L92's and Ls3 intake with something like an ms4 cam. Anyways heres a couple pics.
Heres the Details
Stock Lq4
Th400 with shiftkit
Ati 3500 stall convertor with anti balooning plate
Factory 4:30 Lsd
Ls1 intake and injectors
3" Core Alum rad w/ 14" twin fans
The plan for right now is to just get it running then probably going with L92's and Ls3 intake with something like an ms4 cam. Anyways heres a couple pics.
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Yeah i get alot of **** since ive been a supra guy for quite a few years haha. eventually i will prob go with a big single setup, but for right now im gonna work with what i have. Thanks guys
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Friend of mine has a 87 MK3 with an on going 2JZ (no ****) swap. Says it is going to be a drift car... with 18x10.5's on all 4 corners.... see what happens.
Good luck with the build!
Good luck with the build!
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Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
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Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
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I built a LS1 powered 89 Supra. It really is amazing how easily these motors drop into this generation Supra. The motor mounts line up perfectly. The Camaro pan clears everything and the Corvette fuel / filter / regulator even fits in the stock fuel filter location at the rear of the car. CTS-V exhaust manifolds fit almost perfectly. We just milled the mounting flange a little to tuck them in tighter. Also the aluminum LS motor is lighter than the stock engine, sits lower in the chassis, and is almost completely behind the shock towers. Cylinder 1 lines up with the towers. It is a great swap for these cars however as stated before it pisses off the die hard Supra owners.
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Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance
Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.
98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
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The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.
I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.
Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
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Not sure how in the world you made those numbers on a hybrid ct-26. Not even the 60-1 has enough breath to get there.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***
The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.
I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.
Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***
The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.
I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.
Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
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Not sure how in the world you made those numbers on a hybrid ct-26. Not even the 60-1 has enough breath to get there.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***
The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.
I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.
Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***
The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.
I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.
Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
The real secret to my set-up was the head work done by a former Cosworth machinist, using a aeromotive boost reference fuel pressure regulator with a pusher pump and the HKS atom boost controller, everything else was conventional HKS bolt on stuff. The late John Myers of Turbonetics was also instrumental in tuning the CT26 into a good street set-up while keeping reliability, it's the only thing that kept me from popping a bottom end and since it was a daily driver I stayed away from upgrading the turbo at the time.
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The V manifolds we used were first generation I believe. The passenger side flange hit the frame rail so we milled the flange that mounts to the head at a slight angle to tuck them a little tighter to the engine. I worked great and clears everything quite well. Looking at the 5th gen Camaro manifolds I suspect they would work as well and they are probably easier to find.
Oh and for front accessories we used the CTS-V from GMPP that you buy as a kit. They are just under $800 for the whole front setup. However if you want to run A/C buy a Vette bracket and compressor. It will line up with the V accessories but it tucks closer to the block to give you room for the A/C lines.
Oh and for front accessories we used the CTS-V from GMPP that you buy as a kit. They are just under $800 for the whole front setup. However if you want to run A/C buy a Vette bracket and compressor. It will line up with the V accessories but it tucks closer to the block to give you room for the A/C lines.
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Love the V8 swap into Supra chassis!
I'm jealous of your easy drivers side manifold fix to get around the steering shaft, my 83 is getting (an attempted) custom SS headers-basically an inexpensive set of ebay headers chopped and re-fitted around the steering shaft. I've moved the engine behind the front sway bar, so the weight distribution should be nice-sits about 1-1.5" taller on stock 1983 springs.
Now I've just got to get off the posterior and get moving It doesn't help that life and the fact that I have to do everything the hard way is always slowing me down (Excuses!)
Good luck with your swap and keep us posted, it's good motivation.
BTW, tried the 2jzgte-what a boat anchor! It also couldn't stop breaking....parts and the bank.....off to a nice dependable V8.
I'm jealous of your easy drivers side manifold fix to get around the steering shaft, my 83 is getting (an attempted) custom SS headers-basically an inexpensive set of ebay headers chopped and re-fitted around the steering shaft. I've moved the engine behind the front sway bar, so the weight distribution should be nice-sits about 1-1.5" taller on stock 1983 springs.
Now I've just got to get off the posterior and get moving It doesn't help that life and the fact that I have to do everything the hard way is always slowing me down (Excuses!)
Good luck with your swap and keep us posted, it's good motivation.
BTW, tried the 2jzgte-what a boat anchor! It also couldn't stop breaking....parts and the bank.....off to a nice dependable V8.
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I don't want to hijack your thread here but I thought maybe some pics from my build would help you out. I never did a build thread on here so here they are.
Drivers Side CTS-V manifold stock
Passengers Side CTS-V manifold milled to tuck in closer to engine
Motor mounts
Corvette filter / regulator in stock Supra filter location
Simple transmission mount
4th Gen Camaro oil pan clearance to rack
Drivers Side CTS-V manifold stock
Passengers Side CTS-V manifold milled to tuck in closer to engine
Motor mounts
Corvette filter / regulator in stock Supra filter location
Simple transmission mount
4th Gen Camaro oil pan clearance to rack
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No problem. Glad I could help. I do want to add that I know we milled the passenger side manifold. I can't really remember about the drivers side. I don't think we did but we might have to gain a little more clearance on the steering shaft. I do know that they did fit without any modification but we milled them to gain more clearance. Plus your engine location might be a factor too although it looks to be pretty much the same location as where we mounted ours. It should get you pretty close anyhow and the manifolds are usually cheap. I think we paid $50 for a pair.