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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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I just got finished with a lsx swap into my 71 Trans Am. I am running an Autometer Cobalt gauge set on 4 cyl mode. I have sliced into the signal wire with a 12v lead and placed anywhere from 680 ohm - 2.2k ohm 1/2 watt resister between the 12v wire and the signal wire. All of which seem to keep showing my idle at about 1900 rpm. then depending upon which resistor value, it can read up to 4k rpm, then the tach needle drops to 0. Any ideas how to fix this? I dont have the OBD2 port wired yet, and no way to scan the computer or tune it. I was thinking of getting a mail order tune from Frost, but not sure what he could fix to help this?
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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My tach is on 6cyl mode. Its an autometer designer black. Tried it first on 4cyl (seems to the forum's go-to setting) mode and read wrong, switched to 8cyl and was still wrong...6cyl was just right. I also ran the pick up circuit and resistor (680ohm?) like everyone else has done
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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ok, so i switched it to 6cyl mode, replaced the resistor with a 680 ohm, and now i have the correct idle, but as soon as i give it any throttle, the needle drops to 0
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Ok i have literally tried all the resistors up to 2.2k ohm and this tach still is not working! Any other ideas?
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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? on my setup i have the edelbrock msd box but i have a big 5" autometer tach and it reads correct on the 8cly mode and no resistors or anything like that? i dont understand why yall are having trouble. is it because it is the cobalt guage or because it is the 6010 msd box?
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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I just got finished with a lsx swap into my 71 Trans Am. I am running an Autometer Cobalt gauge set on 4 cyl mode. I have sliced into the signal wire with a 12v lead
Little lost at what you did there. It sounds like you took a live 12v wire and put it into your signal wire from the PCM?

You need to take the tach signal wire coming from the PCM and hook it into the signal terminal on the back of the tach. Set the tach for 4 cylinder mode. Hook up 12volt power to the 12+ terminal on the tach and connect the ground terminal to ground. That is all I did on my Autometer Antique tach and it works fine.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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See here:

http://www.autometer.com/productPDF/1165.pdf


I just can't remember if mine was set for 4 cyl one pulse or 4 cyl two pulse.

EDIT: Reading my tach's install sheets, mine only had a 4 cyl two pulse selection. So I'd say set yours to 4 cyl two pulse.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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what i did was hook a 12v wire to the tach wire with a 680 ohm resistor between the tach wire and the 12v wire, then hook that up to the tach signal wire. The tach worked fine with the old 462 i had. My tach also has dip switches, which allow for only 4 cyl, 6 cyl and 8cyl mode.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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I guess i will pull the 12v wire and mess with the dip switches, and see where that gets me!
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what i did was hook a 12v wire to the tach wire with a 680 ohm resistor between the tach wire and the 12v wire, then hook that up to the tach signal wire. The tach worked fine with the old 462 i had. My tach also has dip switches, which allow for only 4 cyl, 6 cyl and 8cyl mode.
The pdf link I posted was from the instructions on the Autometer site under the Cobalt tach, so I'm assuming its correct. I can 99.9999999% assure you that the 12v wire connection you made was messing things up, especially with a resistor. Do what I posted, which is identical to the instructions from Autometer, and I'll bet you'll be fine (assuming that 12v wire didn't fry something in the PCM when you connected it to the tach signal wire).
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I guess i will pull the 12v wire and mess with the dip switches, and see where that gets me!
Be sure to get rid of that resistor as well.
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The 12V connection is for the lighting in the tach. The signal wire would be where you would possibly need a resistor, but I'd try it without one first.
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Originally Posted by 91sonomast
The 12V connection is for the lighting in the tach. The signal wire would be where you would possibly need a resistor, but I'd try it without one first.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I want to correct that statement.

The 12v is not for lighting the tach. The 12v goes to the tach in a different spade and gives the tach power to operate.

The lighting has its own spade on the back of the tach that needs to be connected to a dash light (comes on with parking lights or headlights, etc). The 12v gives the tach power to read the signal and operate.

And again, the signal has it's own spade on the back of the tach to give the signal to the tach.

And then there's also the ground.
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i have my tach hooked up directly to the signal wire out of the computer, then had the tuner adjust the settings and its dead perfect... I have the Phantom II gauges, and there is no 4-6-8 switch on the back...

my advice is to hook it up normally then tune the computer for the correct output...
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Interesting thread....I have an Auto Meter tach and initially hooked tach signal wire up withe the tach set to 4 cylinder mode and got no reading.

I called Auto Meter and they said tie in a +5V line with a 10K ohm resistor on 4 cylinder mode. A harness builder I know said hook up a 12V line with a 4.7K ohm resistor on 4 cylinder mode. I went with the harness builder recommendation and the tach works, but the needle flutter at idle.
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Originally Posted by 66 BADBOY
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I want to correct that statement.

The 12v is not for lighting the tach. The 12v goes to the tach in a different spade and gives the tach power to operate.

The lighting has its own spade on the back of the tach that needs to be connected to a dash light (comes on with parking lights or headlights, etc). The 12v gives the tach power to read the signal and operate.

And again, the signal has it's own spade on the back of the tach to give the signal to the tach.

And then there's also the ground.
I'll agree, it's been a while since I hooked up a tach and I forgot there were 4 wires, not 3.
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Alright guys, got my computer back from Frost with a new tune on it. I have now tried the tach on every setting, with or without the 12v wire attached and numerous resistors in line. The most I get is either it giving me the correct idle and then falling down to 0 after I give it some throttle, or it showing idle at 1850 rpm and revving to 3000 with before falling to 0. Does anyone think it could be in the tune, or possibly the tach?
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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I just noticed some are using 1/2 watt resistors and other are using 1/4 watt resistors. I have been using 1/2 watt, do you think this could be the problem?

Nevermind...just tried a bunch of 1/4 watt resistors and it didnt make a difference...Im just going to wait to hear back from Autometer.

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Turns out I have a dead tach signal from my PCM. The guy from autometer said it is quite common. So I had to order the Autometer 9117 adapter to pick up the signal from the coil.
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