New Hooker/Holley 1st-gen parts compatibility with Ridetech TruTurn
#141
Pulley switched out...check out the difference in post #96. Everything else lines up well as far as drive line angles, center line, etc. I did have to dimple one header tube on each side to clear tie rod ends.
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...ar-build/page5
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...ar-build/page5
Last edited by jlwdvm; 09-03-2014 at 09:14 AM.
#144
You need a set of headers that are designed specifically to deal with the raised exhaust ports of your heads if you want to do your engine justice in reaching its true performance potential.
#146
We have a LSX 454 in the engineering lab right now and I will bolt up a header flange tomorrow and validate the fitment for you to see exactly where you would end up by using standard LS headers on your engine since I'm only guessing off of your photo at the moment.
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My project kind of stalled out for a little while. What i found was that with the tru-turn, hooker long tubes, and holley mount setup, my steering would hit the headers. I also found that the Mast Motorsports oil pan was the best solution in my application.
I since have decided to build a twin turbo setup with front facing headers so the headers are no longer a concern for me
I since have decided to build a twin turbo setup with front facing headers so the headers are no longer a concern for me
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My project kind of stalled out for a little while. What i found was that with the tru-turn, hooker long tubes, and holley mount setup, my steering would hit the headers. I also found that the Mast Motorsports oil pan was the best solution in my application.
I since have decided to build a twin turbo setup with front facing headers so the headers are no longer a concern for me
I since have decided to build a twin turbo setup with front facing headers so the headers are no longer a concern for me
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Disregard. I've decided to stay normally aspirated. Which puts me back with the complicated mess of modifying someones LS swap system to work with the Tru Turn. While I bragged about the Tru Turn system with my OEM drivetrain, I can say without doubt I wouldn't consider the Tru Turn system again because of all this aggrevation of trying to make something work for a LS swap. And IMO no-one from Ridetech has stepped up to the plate to provide us with a list of part numbers for swap plates, headers, transmission Xmember, and oil pan that will clear their system. Now I realize they did this with the 48 hour Camaro but it is my understanding it used a mix match of different items. If I could do this over again I would buy a full front stub from DSE, Speedtech, or Scott Mock. If I wanted to reinvent the wheel I would. Just an opinion from someone that has the Tru Turn system.
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I do commend Todd on his work on this system and he doesnt even have any affiliation with Ridetech.
I guess I'm going to go with the 302-2 pan, some engine swap plates that will move the motor back at least 1/2" (Dirty Dingos maybe) or Holleys 1" set back plates, 1 7/8" long tube headers in stainless, and alter and modify my existing new style Holley LS transmission crossmember to make up for the new set back......since I've already altered it to pick up the front mount on my torque arm already.
I wont dent or alter a new set of headers, cut my crossmember or modify a new oil pan. Nope!
I guess I'm going to go with the 302-2 pan, some engine swap plates that will move the motor back at least 1/2" (Dirty Dingos maybe) or Holleys 1" set back plates, 1 7/8" long tube headers in stainless, and alter and modify my existing new style Holley LS transmission crossmember to make up for the new set back......since I've already altered it to pick up the front mount on my torque arm already.
I wont dent or alter a new set of headers, cut my crossmember or modify a new oil pan. Nope!
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I do commend Todd on his work on this system and he doesnt even have any affiliation with Ridetech.
I guess I'm going to go with the 302-2 pan, some engine swap plates that will move the motor back at least 1/2" (Dirty Dingos maybe) or Holleys 1" set back plates, 1 7/8" long tube headers in stainless, and alter and modify my existing new style Holley LS transmission crossmember to make up for the new set back......since I've already altered it to pick up the front mount on my torque arm already.
I wont dent or alter a new set of headers, cut my crossmember or modify a new oil pan. Nope!
I guess I'm going to go with the 302-2 pan, some engine swap plates that will move the motor back at least 1/2" (Dirty Dingos maybe) or Holleys 1" set back plates, 1 7/8" long tube headers in stainless, and alter and modify my existing new style Holley LS transmission crossmember to make up for the new set back......since I've already altered it to pick up the front mount on my torque arm already.
I wont dent or alter a new set of headers, cut my crossmember or modify a new oil pan. Nope!
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Hey stovebolter. I think your best solution is to use the Mast pan and modify one tube on either side of the Hooker headers if that's what you are using. Switching to swap plates will raise the front of your engine and deny you the ability to take advantage of the optimized geometry design into the Hooker engine brackets and crossmember. I've already performed the same header modification for another member here free of charge and will offer the same service to you if you are interested.
I may take you up on that offer. I will be doing the long tube stainless for sure.
So you are saying the set back plates that you were talking about somewhere place the drivetrain on a different plane than the 1rst gen kit? Higher and further back? Rats! I really like the idea of staying with the Holley pan too because they tie the block to the transmission like a factory pan. I can probably TIG the corners of one of the pans.
Let's assume I stay with your system only, I'd prefer not to modify my front crossmember but will if one pan is suggested over the other, your willing to help me out with the header mods, and I stay with the new Holley TH400 X member that I now use which is also good with T56......what part numbers for suggested swap plates, headers, and which pan?
Thanks,
David
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Todd,
I may take you up on that offer. I will be doing the long tube stainless for sure.
So you are saying the set back plates that you were talking about somewhere place the drivetrain on a different plane than the 1rst gen kit? Higher and further back? Rats! I really like the idea of staying with the Holley pan too because they tie the block to the transmission like a factory pan. I can probably TIG the corners of one of the pans.
Let's assume I stay with your system only, I'd prefer not to modify my front crossmember but will if one pan is suggested over the other, your willing to help me out with the header mods, and I stay with the new Holley TH400 X member that I now use which is also good with T56......what part numbers for suggested swap plates, headers, and which pan?
Thanks,
David
I may take you up on that offer. I will be doing the long tube stainless for sure.
So you are saying the set back plates that you were talking about somewhere place the drivetrain on a different plane than the 1rst gen kit? Higher and further back? Rats! I really like the idea of staying with the Holley pan too because they tie the block to the transmission like a factory pan. I can probably TIG the corners of one of the pans.
Let's assume I stay with your system only, I'd prefer not to modify my front crossmember but will if one pan is suggested over the other, your willing to help me out with the header mods, and I stay with the new Holley TH400 X member that I now use which is also good with T56......what part numbers for suggested swap plates, headers, and which pan?
Thanks,
David
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Hey stovebolter. I think your best solution is to use the Mast pan and modify one tube on either side of the Hooker headers if that's what you are using. Switching to swap plates will raise the front of your engine and deny you the ability to take advantage of the optimized geometry design into the Hooker engine brackets and crossmember. I've already performed the same header modification for another member here free of charge and will offer the same service to you if you are interested.
I'm more than likely going this same route. Will/Can you perform the header modification for me as well?
Please let me know. thanks
#157
Hey BlackHD, I can help you out as long as your not in a huge rush to get it done. I've committed to helping out stovebolter already, so I'll have to put you behind him in the pecking order...that might translate to a few weeks, so I don't know if that suits your schedule.
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Hey BlackHD, I can help you out as long as your not in a huge rush to get it done. I've committed to helping out stovebolter already, so I'll have to put you behind him in the pecking order...that might translate to a few weeks, so I don't know if that suits your schedule.