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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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custom grind 231/239 .617/.623 @ 112 LSA or keep my current cam which is an off the shelf comp cam 285LR-HR13 (235/243 .621/.624 @ 113LSA). The custom grind was meant for another setup but the guy wants my cam and wants to do a trade.


89 fox body. EFI 2003 5.3 with 2001 silverado PCM, stock 706 heads, PRC dual .650 springs, 7.4 chromoly pushrods, comp cam 285LR-HR13 (235/243 .621/.624 @ 113LSA), 36# injectors, walbro 255, fuel reg. set to 60psi, 4l60e built with red clutches, "beast" sunshell, larger belt, corvette servo, hd2 shift kit, circle d single disk 2500-2800 stall (does NOT stall past 1650rpm), stock trac-loc 8.8 rear with 3.55s, 27x8 hoosier slicks (beat to hell). thru the floor subframes, boxed stock control arms, stock suspension.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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There may only be a few hp difference. I'd give Tick Performance a call.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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I would just keep your current cam.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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IMO both of those camshafts are too big for a 5.3.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
IMO both of those camshafts are too big for a 5.3.
What would you recommend for my current setup martin?

This is my latest time slip. still needs wideband tunning.


This is my latest run when i ran that 12.8
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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That thing needs to be tuned very, very, badly. It's taking a **** on launch which means you're getting tip-in knock retard and/or not enough fuel from PE. I would expect your MPH to be a fair bit higher than that too! Also, the smaller cam will work better with your 5.3.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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I am switching tuners because the one i have is very hard to find and then when you do actually get a chance he does everything half *** cuz he is in a hurry.
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With your stall speed being as tight as it is the cam will need to make good torque on the bottom end and mid-range where it will fall back on the shift extension.

The car being light helps, but the stall and gears demands a camshaft that delivers strong torque production at lower engine speeds.

Here is what I'd recommend:

221/228 .609/.571 111+3

I have a ton of customers with 2800-3200 lb. 5.3 swapped 5.0 mustangs. I have 3-4 camshafts that perform exceptionally well and none of them are over 229@.050" intake lobe.

I've re-cammed so many over cammed 5.3's it's not funny. Had a guy go from mid 11's with a 150 shot to 10.80's with a cam swap in a 5.3 swapped G-body. Old cam was 244/248 112+4. New cam was mid 220's intake duration low 230's exhaust duration.

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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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That should raise your stall speed and lower your 60 ft time. @ Martin. Isn't the 355 gears still a little tall for that cam in a 5.3 though?
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
With your stall speed being as tight as it is the cam will need to make good torque on the bottom end and mid-range where it will fall back on the shift extension.

The car being light helps, but the stall and gears demands a camshaft that delivers strong torque production at lower engine speeds.

Here is what I'd recommend:

221/228 .609/.571 111+3

I have a ton of customers with 2800-3200 lb. 5.3 swapped 5.0 mustangs. I have 3-4 camshafts that perform exceptionally well and none of them are over 229@.050" intake lobe.

@Martin. Out of 3-4 cams that you have, which one performs the best? By the way, I will be porting the stock 706 heads over the next few days.

I've re-cammed so many over cammed 5.3's it's not funny. Had a guy go from mid 11's with a 150 shot to 10.80's with a cam swap in a 5.3 swapped G-body. Old cam was 244/248 112+4. New cam was mid 220's intake duration low 230's exhaust duration.
I'll be upgrading my stall to a Yank PT Series 4000 converter in a few months. but i want to be able to keep my 3.55 gear since its my daily driver.

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I'd wait on the stall change until you get the cam recommended. When you make more torque your stall speed will change to a higher rpm range. Are you thinking the 1650 rpm is the rpm the converter flashes(stall) or is that your foot brake rpm? Because those are two totally different things.

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Originally Posted by lsxRanger94
That should raise your stall speed and lower your 60 ft time. @ Martin. Isn't the 355 gears still a little tall for that cam in a 5.3 though?
If the car didn't weigh what it did, yes it would be too much camshaft.
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I'll be upgrading my stall to a Yank PT Series 4000 converter in a few months. but i want to be able to keep my 3.55 gear since its my daily driver.
If you're truly going to a 4000rpm stall later, you can add 4 degrees of duration @.050" to the camshaft I specified and spread the lobe centers to 109/115.

Cam would be 225/232 .612/.575 112+3.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lsxRanger94
That should raise your stall speed and lower your 60 ft time. @ Martin. Isn't the 355 gears still a little tall for that cam in a 5.3 though?
What gear would you recomment? 4.10s or 4.30s?
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Since you are moving away from this being a daily driver with a little big cam and a new 4000 converter, 4:10 gears always worked well in a fox body with an aod and cam. So it would probably be the same outcome. 4:30 gears if you are only going to using it for occasional street duty. For a daily driver, Id have Martin cook you up a slightly smaller cam and keep the setup you have. It will most likely be just as fast and a whole lot more fun to drive everyday. If you need to go faster at the track there is always a 150 shot.
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