530ZX - In progress
Yeah my thinking was that I'd use the extra volume to maintain flow rate when using an oil cooler due to the extra line? Admittedly, I'm a noob, so someone will need to chime in if this an incorrect approach?
The Fbody pan will still allow the oil to slosh back and uncover the pickup. It's worse with the high volume pumps because they run the pan at a lower oil level than the standard volume pumps. I tried adding additional oil as a crutch and it worked ok with a factory oil pump. The high volume pump sucked the oil level down too far no matter what I did. I had 7.5qts in my 5.5qt fbody pan and still lost oil pressure on acceleration. You need baffles or you need to move the pickup to the back of the pan IMO.
The Fbody pan will still allow the oil to slosh back and uncover the pickup. It's worse with the high volume pumps because they run the pan at a lower oil level than the standard volume pumps. I tried adding additional oil as a crutch and it worked ok with a factory oil pump. The high volume pump sucked the oil level down too far no matter what I did. I had 7.5qts in my 5.5qt fbody pan and still lost oil pressure on acceleration. You need baffles or you need to move the pickup to the back of the pan IMO.
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The Holley 302-2 is knock off (more or less) from the F-body pan. It looks like it is a rear pickup from pictures online (I can't remember where the pickup is, even though I installed it only a year ago or less).
I have the L92 with VVT and thus high volume pump. Anyone know if the issue exists with Holley's pan, too? I've never seen low pressure upon WOT, but I don't stare at the gauge, nor do I have an idiot light for oil pressure. (will the PCM trigger a check engine light??) I don't get one of those.
I don't drag race, either, but do get on WOT frequently.
Doug
I have the L92 with VVT and thus high volume pump. Anyone know if the issue exists with Holley's pan, too? I've never seen low pressure upon WOT, but I don't stare at the gauge, nor do I have an idiot light for oil pressure. (will the PCM trigger a check engine light??) I don't get one of those.
I don't drag race, either, but do get on WOT frequently.
Doug
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Thanks man! I'm planning on running a S14 rear sub frame to benefit from the improved anti-squat over the S13 and also to maintain the 5 lug hubs, but really wanted to run the Z32TT diff/axles because of the thicker axles and larger diff. So how much did you have to mod the sub frame to fit it in the S13 sub frame?
http://www.splparts.com/spl-pro-soli...-bushings-s13/
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You could maybe use a higher pressure oil pump, but really as long as you use appropriately sized plumbing (at least -10 with full-flow fittings) there should be minimal pressure drop through the oil cooler.
I just need to buy some S13>S14 Conversion bushings and it bolts up (I Haven't done it yet)
http://www.splparts.com/spl-pro-soli...-bushings-s13/
http://www.splparts.com/spl-pro-soli...-bushings-s13/
The oil cooler circuit is in series with the rest of the oiling system, so you don't need a high volume to account for that, you just need to ensure you fill the system with extra oil to account for the larger system. You can probably find the capacity of the oil cooler itself on the manufacturer's website, or just fill the thing yourself to see how much oil it holds. Then add the capacity of the lines (based on the internal diameter x length of hose used).
You could maybe use a higher pressure oil pump, but really as long as you use appropriately sized plumbing (at least -10 with full-flow fittings) there should be minimal pressure drop through the oil cooler.
You could maybe use a higher pressure oil pump, but really as long as you use appropriately sized plumbing (at least -10 with full-flow fittings) there should be minimal pressure drop through the oil cooler.
S14 R200 it is then!
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Srength is not the issue, limited gearing is. 3.69 in TT 300zx trim, a d a couple others in Armada trim, but very few have turned the Armada diff into an LSD and documented it. The R200 when properly built will do just fine for most applications, but do not discount the R230 as weak. Plenty of Z guys running lots of power through them for many years now. Just too few choices for gearing.
Srength is not the issue, limited gearing is. 3.69 in TT 300zx trim, a d a couple others in Armada trim, but very few have turned the Armada diff into an LSD and documented it. The R200 when properly built will do just fine for most applications, but do not discount the R230 as weak. Plenty of Z guys running lots of power through them for many years now. Just too few choices for gearing.
Thank you sir, the interior cleanup, patching, and painting is progressing slowly currently
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R230 gears are plenty stout but the stub shafts shear and last. Looked there was nothing available stronger. The R200 is likely weaker, you'll want good shafts for sure and you will also have gearing issues I'm betting as most of the cars that use them have smaller displacement engines that spin higher - 1st in a T56 will be quite short. BTDT! I've got a viscous R200 with CVs in my 240Z with a kit to swap in an 8.8 in a box.
Stock brake booster and Wilwood CMC came in. Primed and painted in wrinkle black
Rigid Racing CMC adapter and Z32 1" BMC
Finished up the sound deadening removal in the rear and found some Doublemint
Rigid Racing CMC adapter and Z32 1" BMC
Finished up the sound deadening removal in the rear and found some Doublemint
Z31 brake booster and the Z32 1" BMC
The last few weeks have been all about cooling and power steering in an effort to get everything underhood completed.
Main shipment of power steering parts
More presents
Ended up going another route and will not be using the coolant inline filler pictured
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Making the PS pressure line with -6AN PTFE
Removing the barbs on the water pump
Derale Fan/shroud came in. Fit and finish are excellent.
Pleasantly surprised to find that the fans are SPAL. 2000 cfm each
Going to have to drop the rad down an inch or so to accommodate the thickness of both the rad and fan shroud
Ebay fuel pressure gauge started leaking oil already, so it will be replaced with this Aeromotive one
Majority of the last shipment came in today. Waiting on the Canton surge tank, swivel tstat housing and oddball fitting for the tank
Not 530ZX, but also had my Doug Rippie revalved Bilsteins come in today for the C6Z
The last few weeks have been all about cooling and power steering in an effort to get everything underhood completed.
Main shipment of power steering parts
More presents
Ended up going another route and will not be using the coolant inline filler pictured
Plug! Please subscribe on YouTube
Making the PS pressure line with -6AN PTFE
Removing the barbs on the water pump
Derale Fan/shroud came in. Fit and finish are excellent.
Pleasantly surprised to find that the fans are SPAL. 2000 cfm each
Going to have to drop the rad down an inch or so to accommodate the thickness of both the rad and fan shroud
Ebay fuel pressure gauge started leaking oil already, so it will be replaced with this Aeromotive one
Majority of the last shipment came in today. Waiting on the Canton surge tank, swivel tstat housing and oddball fitting for the tank
Not 530ZX, but also had my Doug Rippie revalved Bilsteins come in today for the C6Z
Made some drop mounts out of aluminum tube, rubber well nuts with 10-24 threaded inserts, ss all thread, and ss hardware. Not that it matters, but i didn't have to modify the car at all with these.
First cooling line mock up
Swivel Tstat housing and Canton surge tank came in
Final coolant mockup to determine gaps
Swapping bottom coupler to a 45
Straight 1/2" NPT to 5/8" isn't going to clear. Will order a 90 degree
Clears the hood...barely
Plenty of room for a turbo
Bam! Picked up a T56 locally out of a LS1 Fbody
First cooling line mock up
Swivel Tstat housing and Canton surge tank came in
Final coolant mockup to determine gaps
Swapping bottom coupler to a 45
Straight 1/2" NPT to 5/8" isn't going to clear. Will order a 90 degree
Clears the hood...barely
Plenty of room for a turbo
Bam! Picked up a T56 locally out of a LS1 Fbody
