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Old 10-06-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BudRacing
From what I understand, you use dowels to hold the lifters up. Good video to watch as a whole, but fwd to 8 minute mark to get to the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4XNxOUuoJ4
Thanks! Saw that one before...but the answer to the mystery question remains unanswered. How does a lobe peak that’s shorter than the journal raise the lifter higher than the journal?
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OK- most cam blanks start with the "lobes" looking like bearing journals, at the same OD as the actual bearing journals. When grinding the cam, the base circle determines the lift. The peak of the lobe remains the same height as the bearing journal. This is why some cams need different length pushrods, as higher lift cams allow the lifter and pushrod to sink lower to account for the increased lift.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
OK- most cam blanks start with the "lobes" looking like bearing journals, at the same OD as the actual bearing journals. When grinding the cam, the base circle determines the lift. The peak of the lobe remains the same height as the bearing journal. This is why some cams need different length pushrods, as higher lift cams allow the lifter and pushrod to sink lower to account for the increased lift.
Got it - as I mentioned earlier, knew I was missing something. The fly in the ointment was my assumption that the lobe peak was smaller than the journal...you’re saying they’re essentially the same height which means if use the lobe to push the lifter to peak lift, the journal will clear it too. Provided, of course, that the retainer does it’s and doesn’t let it slip back down the lifter bore even a small amount. Thanks for the education. All the other older V8’s I’ve played with, you have to remove the lifters for a cam change. To remove lifters, at least the intake has to come off....and on some the heads too.
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
Got it - as I mentioned earlier, knew I was missing something. The fly in the ointment was my assumption that the lobe peak was smaller than the journal...you’re saying they’re essentially the same height which means if use the lobe to push the lifter to peak lift, the journal will clear it too. Provided, of course, that the retainer does it’s and doesn’t let it slip back down the lifter bore even a small amount. Thanks for the education. All the other older V8’s I’ve played with, you have to remove the lifters for a cam change. To remove lifters, at least the intake has to come off....and on some the heads too.
Also used to dealing with 5.0L motors where lots of different lifts are available with the same base circle - because lobe peak is shorter than journal....thought the LS motors were that way too.
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
Thanks! Saw that one before...but the answer to the mystery question remains unanswered. How does a lobe peak that’s shorter than the journal raise the lifter higher than the journal?
Ever jump a bicycle and go higher than the ramp?

If you spin the cam quickly, the lifters will effectively jump off the peak of the lobes and slide a little further in the retainers.
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Now you know why cam changes in LS's are such a snap! Glad to help! It's what forums like this are all about.
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Originally Posted by fieroguru
Ever jump a bicycle and go higher than the ramp?

If you spin the cam quickly, the lifters will effectively jump off the peak of the lobes and slide a little further in the retainers.
LOL - yup, 2 broken arms and a broken collar bone later. Turns out, you just need to make a rotation or two at any speed, put the dowels in if you don’t trust the retainers and swap away. Although mine will stay stock....
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Spun the center thrust bearing on the 4.8L. The plastic patch got sucked into the motor on the modified truck manifold on the 4.8L. Pulled the heads and saw plastic stuck to the valves. Bought a new 5.3 100k miles from LKQ (would never recommend them). Installed a brand new oil pump timing chain and a BTR stage III cam. Bought a true trac rear end, and I just need to install it. I'm will probably just leave this intake stock for now.


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So she's back together and running with the new cam?
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It looked like on the 10/04 post that it was running and he had taken it to the dyno.
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Originally Posted by 77volvo245
Bought a new 5.3 100k miles from LKQ (would never recommend them).
Not to derail the thread, but where are you dealing with LKQ, and what issue(s) did you have?
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It's already derailed, he sold the car!



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