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Toddoky, I'm currently using the 96-04 engine swap plates in a 99. I'm looking to make a switch from a tko600 to a th400. I was using a stifflers transmission mount. I see the hooker crossmember is available but will not work with a th400. Is something coming along for that application? Or is there a engine angle or c/l inclination that I can shoot for to match what you setup for?
Toddoky, I'm currently using the 96-04 engine swap plates in a 99. I'm looking to make a switch from a tko600 to a th400. I was using a stifflers transmission mount. I see the hooker crossmember is available but will not work with a th400. Is something coming along for that application? Or is there a engine angle or c/l inclination that I can shoot for to match what you setup for?
You can install a TH400 by using the 71222013HKR crossmember and the 12650HKR spacer block.
Ok, I was under the assumption that crossmember used the 96-98 factory transmission crossmember mounts. I read through the instructions and see it doesn't use them. Thank you.
Todd, my 2002 has the shorty crossmember as pictured by other members here. Does the below crossmember replace the shorty when using the 4l80e? I believe so just want to make sure. Reason I ask is b/c it almost looks like the below crossmember is side-bolted through the factory crossmember mounting points, which my car doesn't have. Thanks!!!!
Originally Posted by Toddoky
Hey guys, I'm doing the final fitment validation of the two transmission crossmembers for this swap system before cutting them loose for production and thought I'd share pics of them as I go so those following this thread can get a look at them...these photos posted here depict one of the two crossmembers installed with a TH400, 2004R, T56 and 4L80 transmission, in that order. I will post photos of the other crossmember for Powerglide, TH350, TKO and 4L60-4L70 transmissions next Monday after I complete the fitment validation process.
Yes, the 4L80 requires the rear mounted crossmember you are referencing. I'm going to assume that your 2002 is the same as our 2004 development car that you see pictured here, which means it would have one of the holes needed to attach the crossmember on each boxed floor rail section (the holes circled in red). The other hole needed in each of the boxed floor rail sections needs to be marked and installed by the user. If for some reason similar holes don't exist in the boxed floor rail sections of your car, you'll need to mark and drill all four of them after doing a dry-run mock-up to determine their location.
4L80e? In the tunnel of one these cars? Ok, a couple of large hammers and a 5 gal bucket of F bombs will be needed.
I used up the vast majority of the F-bombs needed to install a 4L80 during the development of the Hooker Blackheart system components. I left the user only needing to clearance the floor slightly for the electrical harness connector on the left side of the transmission and for the rear return cooler line/fitting on the right side of the transmission. The engine mounting position provided by the motor mount adapter plates plays a big part in all of it working out as it did. If the engine was any further back it would be a cluster F as you describe.
I used up the vast majority of the F-bombs needed to install a 4L80 during the development of the Hooker Blackheart system components. I left the user only needing to clearance the floor slightly for the electrical harness connector on the left side of the transmission and for the rear return cooler line/fitting on the right side of the transmission. The engine mounting position provided by the motor mount adapter plates plays a big part in all of it working out as it did. If the engine was any further back it would be a cluster F as you describe.
Great response! Makes me want to pick up a blown V6 and LS swap it. Nicely done.
Great response! Makes me want to pick up a blown V6 and LS swap it. Nicely done.
I just picked up this 2002 with a blown motor for 1300.00. Would you believe I got 700.00 for the cats? But lets be honest - the car itself is the cheapest part of this whole ordeal LOL!!!!
I had a difficult time with a T56 in a ‘94, I ended up cutting the ears off the front of the case. Then went to a powerglide and it was kind of the same thing,case ears trimmed, SFI shield for the bell is a no go, one could only imagine the challenge of a 4L80e.
I just picked up this 2002 with a blown motor for 1300.00. Would you believe I got 700.00 for the cats? But lets be honest - the car itself is the cheapest part of this whole ordeal LOL!!!!
Yep, the SN95s are still on the give away list in most areas and can be had for little $. In many ways they’re nicer than a Foxbody like, interior, windshield angle, extra width, designed in Ford’s new wind tunnel program of the time. The 3.8 V6 that eats head gaskets can had VERY little as few ever fix that issue. Enough room for any engine but little room for a few transmissions.
One small issue using the Holley/Hooker engine mount plates for this 2002 Mustang. Using a LS3/L92 block, rear motor mount boss interferes with the supplied carriage bolt head. 2 options: cut the boss down, or egg-out the plate a bit and bolt into the block. I chose to egg-out the plate and bolt into the block. I feel this will allow the rear of the mount to be more solidly mounted vs. being allowed to flex a bit with the as-designed installation.
Rear bolt inteference They way the plate should fit Rear hole needs to be opened significantly, but will result in a better installation IMO
You beat me to it on the motor mount itself also needing to be clearanced to be able to attach the rear bolts into the rear block bosses. I would also elect to do what you are doing if I was faced with the same situation.
Since the Holley crossmembers are back-ordered, can anyone recommend a unit that will work for this 2002 L92/4l80e swap? Probably could make one but I'd rather just get it over with by purchasing one. I hope to maintain the angles that Todd worked towards but I really have no idea if it is correct or not. Maybe in the end it doesn't make all that much a difference. I do remember Todd saying something about the rear cooler line touching the body so that could be a clue.
On another note, I gotta tell you, the truck pan doesn't hang THAT low. Sorry for the poor pic - was shooting towards the bright outdoors. So long as the engine doesn't have to tilt back anymore, I bet one could run this truck pan, or the muscle car pan which I believe is about .75 shorter.
Hangs down maybe 1.5" This L92 fits better than the Ford motors lol.
Hey Todd, I just ordered the Hooker Mounts 1011HKR and transmission cross-member/mount 2013HKR for my 2001 V6 Mustang swap. I know I will use the 4L80e (need to order 3013HKR adapter later), but have not picked out an LS motor yet. Probably go 5.3 with turbo and the 302-3 oil pan. My question is I think I have seen someone was able to use the Turbo Manifold Kit 8510HKR and the 8515HKR.Can you confirm this will all fit using the stock k member? Does it still have room to run an exhaust out the back, or is this more of a dump at the front? Thanks!
I haven't personally tested the fitment of the Hooker turbo manifolds/cross-over pipe on the SN95/New Edge application, so I can't tell you what to expect the outcome of that to be. I think I have also seen another user here post his results of installing them, but I can't remember the identity of that individual.
Todd, did you actually mock-up a 4l80e with the New Edge Mustangs? I can't see how this 4l80e can get high enough in the tunnel to mate with the engine. At this point, the pan of the 4l80e is interfering with the factory crossmember stampings. The engine has the Holley mounts and the 302-3 pan, engine is tilted back to the point where the pan is hitting the K-member so it can't tilt back anymore. Seems to me these stampings would need to be removed to get the trans up in there. However, I'm reluctant to do so b/c if all this doesn't work out, I may regret removing them.
I'll attach some photos and hopefully I captured the right angles to show what were up against (pun intended LOL!!!!)
01-25-2021, 12:22 PM
