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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 09:21 AM
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Default Looking for heat resistant alternative to zip ties

I'm in the middle of an LS3 swap for my C5. While removing the O2 sensor wiring harnesses I found that most of the zip ties I used to hold stuff away from the longtubes had become brittle and broke easily when manipulated. I'll be running a lot more critical components (like oil cooler lines) in the future so I want to avoid issues.

Is there a heat resistant, cost effective alternative to typical black auto parts store zip ties to hold things like wiring and hoses away from heat?
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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How about ADEL clamps. My local aircraft surplus has ADEL clamps with silicone rubber liners for high temp applications. Also, Improved Racing carries them: http://www.improvedracing.com/hose-c...ing-p-322.html
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 09:44 AM
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They make stainless zip ties , if you like zip ties......hard to beat Adel clamps and self drilling screws
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 11:20 AM
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Out of curiosity, what color were the cable ties you are using? If they are the standard nylon color that may be 1 of the issues. Typically the black ones are Protected from UV and they last longer in outdoor environments. But with that said all nylon will get brittle over time and clamps would be better if you are able to use them.
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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+1 to using Adel clamps.

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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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If you're just looking to ties things up to existing brackets there's these.

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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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^^^^^^This would work, plus the price is nice!
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 01:05 PM
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I'd shop around they could be cheaper. I just linked the first ones in search for example.
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Just remember -- for 'electron tranmission' -- if stuff moving around causes the stainless tie to wear through the wiring insulation, you could have a different problem on your hands. I too have noticed embrittlement with ties - but I've NEVER had one break while in service. Only when I start 'futzing' with them. My conclusion? Just replace them after futzing with them.

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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 04:16 PM
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They are not all the same. I've got some reddish ones that I think came from Frys and you can hardly cut those things with side cutters!
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Safety wire with safety wire pliers also make a nice way of tying stuff down in high heat areas also.
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:42 PM
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^ +1 for safety wire

hate those goddamn metal zipties. there's no way to get 'em tight enough, then you cut the end and it's a razorblade that gouges when you least expect since the buckle is so fugly you try and hide em.

i much prefer this stuff

https://www.techflex.com/land_safetywire.asp
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oh and if you have "engine compartment OCD" don't wander around that site too long or you'll end up maxing your credit cards
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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I usually get my Techflex products from Wirecare.com or if I just want sleeving, check eBay for user "Furryletters"

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Those metal zipties can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. If it doesn't slice your hands open as you try to get them something close to tight they'll bite you in the *** when they wear through whatever you are holding with them. I'd rather use an unbent metal coathanger
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Originally Posted by chuckd71
Those metal zipties can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. If it doesn't slice your hands open as you try to get them something close to tight they'll bite you in the *** when they wear through whatever you are holding with them. I'd rather use an unbent metal coathanger
Funny as crap....but true.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 05:14 AM
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I use velcro zip ties I got at Lowes.

Zip ties don't like movement either, that work hardens them and cause them to fail.

On our radars we use a type of nylon twine. Takes a good tech to tie them down properly but looks super professional when done.

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I wouldn't use safety wire or anything conductive in case it cuts the insulation.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood

I wouldn't use safety wire or anything conductive in case it cuts the insulation.
Yup - I mentioned it above as well. There's a reason the OEM's secure the electrical bits with stuff that won't conduct if contact occurs.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 09:04 AM
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Just to clarify, my stainless zipties are not on anything that doesnt have exhaust wrap on in the first place.

Talk about stirring the $hit pot.......Im swtcing back to coat hangers!
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Originally Posted by chuckd71
Those metal zipties can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. If it doesn't slice your hands open as you try to get them something close to tight they'll bite you in the *** when they wear through whatever you are holding with them. I'd rather use an unbent metal coathanger
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