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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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LY6 at the wrecker out of 09 2500 Silverado, 118,750 miles (190,000 kms, I am in Canada). Compression was 195 pretty much across the board, cold oil press was 42 and hot was 26 I think he said. Complete except for accessories $770 USD ($1,000 CDN pesos).

Plan is LS3 intake for clearance/looks, and the cam they used (or similar grind) to the hotrod article where they got 514/493 with zero loss anywhere in the curve. I think the 09 has the 40lbs injectors vs the 30lbs in the 07/08 LY6?

Car would be going into new edge mustang, 2002 V6 rust free that looks like its been in the sun since 2002... can get the car for $1,100 USD.

Here is my plan, let me know if you see any hiccups...I am new to LS, and as far as engine builds go I am just barely green

- Run the LY6 as it stands. Fairly low miles and good specs as far as comp and oil press goes, sound safe?

- Use 351W swap headers with LS flanges welded on. Should reduce clearance issues, and 351w and LS are close dimension/deck height wise

- AJE K member, with perches and LS mounts

- stand alone harness or modified stock harness, I assume there must be a way to run a gen 4 using DBC? Or do I just mount a DBW pedal in the car and be done with it?

- Fuel, would use a fox style tank, pump/hanger I have already, it is a quantum fuel for fox, it is enough I just dont remember the specs

- Is fuel return or returnless? Or can I make it what I want? I keep reading about a vette regulator/filter, yet I cannot seem to get more info on the subject.

- Tranny, I already have a TKO 600 for Ford, I see there is a bell for that combo, so I should be ok if I get this...

Anything that I am missing?

This would be my second build. I have a maxjax lift so access is not an issue.

Any help/tips/comments would be appreciated
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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Price sounds good. Compression numbers sound good and importantly are even across the cylinders. Oil pressure sounds good/normal. Running as-is sounds like a decent plan. If you swap intake manifolds I'm not sure if the injectors swap across - when I did it, I used the injectors and fuel rail from the LS3 intake. If you use the truck accessories from the LY6 and swap intake manifold, you will need to relocate the idler and do a small amount of trimming on the LY6 waterpump outlet so it will clear the throttle body.

All the LY6 and LS3 OE fuel rails are setup for a returnless system. The 'vette filter regulator is just a convenient and inexpensive OEM/replacement part that will allow you to run a returnless, single line up to the engine. I am using it on my swap and it seems to be working fine. I used Wix 33737 on mine and there is a lot of detail here: https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...l#post19015860.

Assuming you are going to use the ECM that came with the engine there really is not way to go to DBC. If you want to run an aftermarket ECM ($$$) then you have lots of options but you might not be able to use VVT. Whether you modify a stock harness or buy a new stand alone harness just depends on your skill level and how much of the work you want to do yourself.
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Ok I get on the fuel. I woudl run the quantum hanger with -6 an in and out. The tanks inc kit has -6an fittings with it. Makes perfect sense. The outlet runs directly to fuel rail.

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Anything that I am missing?
What do you intend to use as an oil pan? The truck pan will probably be too tall. I'm using a CTS-V pan in mine. Other options may also work.

If you can find an off-the-shelf bellhousing for putting a TKO on an LS, it'll probably be designed for a hydraulic clutch. You'll need to retrofit something. Not sure where that parts stack-up will place the transmission; you may need a new driveshaft. Spline count and input shaft length may also be different on "Ford" vs. "GM" TKOs; be careful.

Truck intake manifold and accessory drive will not clear the stock hood. Need to either switch to a car intake manifold and a different accessory drive, or cut some holes.

Gauges in '99-04 Mustangs are mostly driven off the factory ECU. You'll likely either need to give it the proper signals to make it work, or come up with a different solution for instruments.

If you're up for fabrication, you could just modify a set of Mustang GT motor mounts and use your stock K-member (assuming you use the CTS-V pan), rather than buying an aftermarket one. That does put the engine pretty tight to the firewall, though.
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 05:34 PM
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Pan, I was thinking the scram speed one for a fox, or the caddy one you mentioned

Bell, the bell I am referring to is TKO Ford to LS as I have a Ford TKO 600 that I am using on my 408 notch currently. Quicktime 6037 can be normal fork release bearing or /TB hydraulic. I would start off with fork and maybe give hydraulic a try if I keep the car for awhile https://www.holley.com/products/driv.../parts/RM-6037

Driveshaft does not change except maybe length. The yoke stays the same as the one I have for it now, I will be re using my ford racing aluminum driveshaft with TKO slip yoke

Intake the LS3 solves the clearance intake wise, I thought the alternator cleared as well? I would using a cowl hood of some sort, the corbra R is the least hideous. Might be cheaper to buy F body accessories as it sounds like that would solve alot of problems at once

Gauges, there are some good articles where I can get speedo to work directly from TKO, tach to work with some mods, fuel will work with no changes, anything I cannot splice will be aftermarket. If I really like the car I woudl go with a new gauge cluster with autometer or something nice

The K in a 2002 V6 is the same as a 4.6 K member, so I could use the plates with new 4.6 mounts, kinda like the kit UPR sells...but.....I want to do it right and get the AJE k member to make sure I am not banging into $hit everywhere.
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Old Sep 12, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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Are you sure that bell will work with a Mustang cable set-up?
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Yes, it works for fork or hydraulic. Found this cool application chart on their website

http://www.standardtransmission.com/...tion-Guide.pdf
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Could you click a quick one of the flange side?
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Wow nice job. From how ford ports look compared to LS, that is alot of work! What do you need to ship to 58265? I am in Canada, but I ship stuff just across the border to a little border town in North Dakota
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:11 AM
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Intake the LS3 solves the clearance intake wise, I thought the alternator cleared as well? I would using a cowl hood of some sort, the corbra R is the least hideous. Might be cheaper to buy F body accessories as it sounds like that would solve alot of problems at once
The car intakes definitely clear the hood with tons of room to spare. The truck alternator placement is really pushing it:

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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:22 AM
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Ahh yes thanks for that pic, that is for sure pushing it.
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