Swaps just got way easier...Holley Terminator X
03-28-2019 | 12:37 PM
#181
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Thanks for the info! I received my Max kit, and downloaded software last night, but it'll be 2 weeks before I get out and start the install.
2 additional questions that I have:
1) Do we know which polarity to wire for the Brake switch input, for TCC unlock? With my current setup (Painless wiring, 0411 ECU), it was a big point about wiring it a certain way, and it wasn't 100% clear in the TermX instructions. I've swapped to an OEM (Monte Carlo) brake switch, so I have both NO and NC contacts that I can use..
2) Is there a list of recommended Manifold Air Temp sensors to use with the system? My kit is the Early Truck kit, but they have the IAT in the MAF, which will be eliminated. I want to make sure to buy the correct sensor that will fit the harness, and match the programming.
Bonus question:
If a fuel pressure sensor is used, is it just for display/logging, or is it actively factoring in pressure into the fueling?
Thanks!
2 additional questions that I have:
1) Do we know which polarity to wire for the Brake switch input, for TCC unlock? With my current setup (Painless wiring, 0411 ECU), it was a big point about wiring it a certain way, and it wasn't 100% clear in the TermX instructions. I've swapped to an OEM (Monte Carlo) brake switch, so I have both NO and NC contacts that I can use..
2) Is there a list of recommended Manifold Air Temp sensors to use with the system? My kit is the Early Truck kit, but they have the IAT in the MAF, which will be eliminated. I want to make sure to buy the correct sensor that will fit the harness, and match the programming.
Bonus question:
If a fuel pressure sensor is used, is it just for display/logging, or is it actively factoring in pressure into the fueling?
Thanks!
Page #14
1. Sounds like the gray wire needs to see 12+ volts when brakes are applied. This will unlock the converter.
2. I would call Holley to confirm, but looking at the MAT sensor connector, it looks like you will need to install this sensor:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s/parts/534-20
Bonus: Fuel pressure is strictly for logging and monitoring. It is not used for fueling computations.
Andrew
03-28-2019 | 02:17 PM
#182
https://documents.holley.com/techlibrary_199r11760.pdf
Page #14
1. Sounds like the gray wire needs to see 12+ volts when brakes are applied. This will unlock the converter.
2. I would call Holley to confirm, but looking at the MAT sensor connector, it looks like you will need to install this sensor:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s/parts/534-20
Bonus: Fuel pressure is strictly for logging and monitoring. It is not used for fueling computations.
Andrew
Page #14
1. Sounds like the gray wire needs to see 12+ volts when brakes are applied. This will unlock the converter.
2. I would call Holley to confirm, but looking at the MAT sensor connector, it looks like you will need to install this sensor:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s/parts/534-20
Bonus: Fuel pressure is strictly for logging and monitoring. It is not used for fueling computations.
Andrew
03-29-2019 | 12:20 PM
#183
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Thanks for the info!
The holley IAT looks a lot like an AC Delco 213-190 which I think I have lying around, I'll give that a try and see if it's reading accurately. Otherwise, I'll pick up the holley one next week.
The holley IAT looks a lot like an AC Delco 213-190 which I think I have lying around, I'll give that a try and see if it's reading accurately. Otherwise, I'll pick up the holley one next week.
03-29-2019 | 12:25 PM
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Andrew
03-29-2019 | 12:46 PM
#185
Its the same, you dont have to purchase the holley one, almost any auto parts usually carries them also.
03-31-2019 | 10:40 AM
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Jay
03-31-2019 | 10:51 AM
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See where this is going? Holley has their package for starting at less than $1k. ECM, harness, WBO2, and software that does not need a laptop. Junkyard budgets rarely stay that way AND run well. There are some, but the owner has to know/learn a LOT to do so.
03-31-2019 | 11:19 AM
#189
I have and will continue to use HPT and the stock p01 p59's. They're great. Now that LS Droid and PCM Hammer are maturing to the point of usefulness, I dont think the stock PCM's are going anywhere.
but they don't offer boost control, boost by gear, 2 step or a built in WB...which when you add them up makes the terminator a great deal.
horses for courses. more options is good.
but they don't offer boost control, boost by gear, 2 step or a built in WB...which when you add them up makes the terminator a great deal.
horses for courses. more options is good.
04-03-2019 | 06:59 AM
#194
Just read through this entire thread. For folks who can manage all this -- what a treasure trove of info there is in this thread. A nod to all who contributed - and you know who your are as you contribute regularly in the forum.
For folks who can't manage all this (Definition of Christmas -- the holiday my 45 year old daughter comes home to download new music onto my iPhone) -- I SO made the right decision to use a stock GM ecu with a stock crate motor. And I still haven't found the answer I was looking for - do I cut the blue wire or the red wire?
For folks who can't manage all this (Definition of Christmas -- the holiday my 45 year old daughter comes home to download new music onto my iPhone) -- I SO made the right decision to use a stock GM ecu with a stock crate motor. And I still haven't found the answer I was looking for - do I cut the blue wire or the red wire?
04-03-2019 | 08:18 AM
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Andrew
04-03-2019 | 09:26 AM
#196
I got my kit yesterday even though it wasn't due to ship until today. Pretty stoked on the whole setup but I won't be able to install it for a few weeks as I'm still finishing my long block and need to pull the old Porsche drivetrain out. I think this kit will save me a ton of heartache on the back end. Now I just need to learn the software and start looking at outputs. Someone mentioned you can't get vehicle speed output with the regular Term X package but Holley told me this was possible. I guess we'll see. Maybe I can run a GPS signal to my Porsche speedo to make it all work.
04-03-2019 | 02:10 PM
#200
you'd add a 3 port solenoid and the ecu will control the solenoid duty cycle
they have a very well detailed instruction manual for the boost control feature here
https://documents.holley.com/techlib...r10628rev3.pdf
they have a very well detailed instruction manual for the boost control feature here
https://documents.holley.com/techlib...r10628rev3.pdf