8HP70 mated to LS?
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8HP70 mated to LS? I've been doing a bunch of research and can't find anything of use about mating an 8hp70 to an LS. I want to swap a 5.3 into my car, but need to figure out the transmission situation first. Car is AWD and I would really like to keep my factory transmission. Looking for any advice possible... How do I go about making the transmission and engine communicate? If this isn't the right place to post this, please let me know.
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searching google literally pulled up 4 places that make an adapter plate for it, and one that will soon be doing computers for it. which means someone has done it before, what car is it going in to?
https://getawaycarz.com/products
https://getawaycarz.com/products
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by research do you mean asking a random person on the street? considering how obscure the request is, theres a decent amount of info out there.
heres a thread:
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...0-mated-to-sbc
if you google around more you will find a couple options for available controllers but they require you to replace the mechatronics computer.
heres a thread:
https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...0-mated-to-sbc
if you google around more you will find a couple options for available controllers but they require you to replace the mechatronics computer.
Here is another adapter option:
https://www.domi-works.com/collectio...ct-adapter-kit
Not sure about electronics.
Andrew
https://www.domi-works.com/collectio...ct-adapter-kit
Not sure about electronics.
Andrew
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I've been doing a bunch of research and can't find anything of use about mating an 8hp70 to an LS. I want to swap a 5.3 into my car, but need to figure out the transmission situation first. Car is AWD and I would really like to keep my factory transmission. Looking for any advice possible... How do I go about making the transmission and engine communicate? If this isn't the right place to post this, please let me know.
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Hey, I can help with this. I have an 8hp70 on my LS2 in my Miata. I am using one from a 2014 Jaguar XFR-S but it is basically the same as yours. The adapter plate came from PMC, it has a template to drill the LS flex plate to match the Jag TQ converter. For the computer I used a stand alone from TurboLamik, it is a serious piece and cost me 2x as much as my Holley Terminator X but now I have an "e-clutch", transbrake, multiple selectable programs and full tuneability. I don't see why this wouldn't be a relatively easy swap in your car. How does your awd work? Turbolamik was working on servo control for the bmw variant but I know Land Rover uses a basic torsen setup that is very easy to implement.
Also, (obviously) the dodge ram zf8hp's are almost certainly much more plentiful , are there huge differences between the jaguar trans and the dodge trans?
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hey dave, thanks for sharing! any chance you have pics and/or a build thread we could take a look at? would be interesting to see.
Also, (obviously) the dodge ram zf8hp's are almost certainly much more plentiful , are there huge differences between the jaguar trans and the dodge trans?
Also, (obviously) the dodge ram zf8hp's are almost certainly much more plentiful , are there huge differences between the jaguar trans and the dodge trans?
It was surprisingly hard to find a 2wd dodge variant in Canada, locally anyway. Control wise the TurboLamik can control any 8hp (45/70/90) since you are replacing the circuit board. I believe there are companies that can work with the stock dodge mechatronics so a bit easier that way. The bellhousings are totally different, I went with the Jaguar specifically since it appears to have the smallest bellhousing.
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hey dave, thanks for sharing! any chance you have pics and/or a build thread we could take a look at? would be interesting to see.
Also, (obviously) the dodge ram zf8hp's are almost certainly much more plentiful , are there huge differences between the jaguar trans and the dodge trans?
Also, (obviously) the dodge ram zf8hp's are almost certainly much more plentiful , are there huge differences between the jaguar trans and the dodge trans?
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No Sir, all manufacturers have their own pattern and the bellhousings are cast with the trans case so you can't swap them. BMW seems to be the most common variant for swaps currently and even they have a couple different patterns. It's driven by the fact that a lot of ZF swaps are being done in eastern Europe. PMC, turbolamik and htg are all Polish so they don't have the dodge stuff. Even my plate was designed around a diesel Jag that doesn't exist here but it works with some of the gas jobs too.
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thats what i figured and why i ended up working on designing my own since in the usa the ram truck transmissions seem to be the most available.
cool swap though, i would like to pick that project back up some day.
cool swap though, i would like to pick that project back up some day.
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FYI for anyone searching for this thread, I got ahold of Sound German Automotive last year for some future plans with an Audi 8HP90 and they have a TCU that communicates with the Dodge 8HP70 Mechatronics unit (ZF mechatronic in transmission communicates with ECU entirely over canbus), per the email they only need rpm and accelerator pedal position. Might be worth looking into or maybe I will eventually as I believe you can swap the mechatronics units between manufacturers (don't quote me on this).
No Sir, all manufacturers have their own pattern and the bellhousings are cast with the trans case so you can't swap them. BMW seems to be the most common variant for swaps currently and even they have a couple different patterns. It's driven by the fact that a lot of ZF swaps are being done in eastern Europe. PMC, turbolamik and htg are all Polish so they don't have the dodge stuff. Even my plate was designed around a diesel Jag that doesn't exist here but it works with some of the gas jobs too.
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pmc has both of them listed at diesel but you're saying that they work them same? Looking at putting an ls or an lt in the 13 jaguar I acquired. Pmc was the only company that listed an adapter for a jaguar. I was put off that it was listed as a diesel, and they didnt reply to my request for conformation.
Thanks for the reply! The pcm adapter looks like avery well made piece. The black flat plate looks like some sort of drill quide to adapt the ls flexplate for the proper alignment. Haven't mated them together to sort out proper converter distance, but that and the whole controller scanario is next. I'm undecided on whick way to go.... be it turbo lamik or the can tcu. either way i have to swap the mechatronics unit. I was kinda hoping that I could feed it all the Jaguar signals and maybe just maybe I could get the jaguar components to control the trans. At any rate thanks for the input!