4-door sleeper.
Originally Posted by mullenh
er that engine is a 4.0 and is ok for an inline engine, mostly due to the large heads
How about a w124 mercedes(300e 86-95) or e34(older 5-series 89-96)bmw?
Both handle well, look good, and would love pushrod power under the hood.
Last time I checked this was "LS1" tech. Why does he have no place here?
ANY bmw would benefit from an LS motor.
No need for more than ONE cam in a V8.
The M60 was replaced by the M240G, both chain fed 7.62X39 
PS
I thought it was pronounced "beamer" as in beam of light.
Both handle well, look good, and would love pushrod power under the hood.
Originally Posted by Bimmer Tech
Wow, if you don't think that 4.4L is a real engine, you have no place to be here. One of the best engines of it's time.
ANY bmw would benefit from an LS motor.
No need for more than ONE cam in a V8.
Originally Posted by Bimmer Tech
The M60 was the 4.0L that was in the previous gen 5 series, pre '96.
PS
I thought it was pronounced "beamer" as in beam of light.
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I honestly know nothing about the engine in the BMW, so it was an ignorant comment and I stand corrected.
I do know a LSx engine is a viable alternative to a huge amount of other engines when talking about converting, and my statement stemmed from that. So no offense.
I had to do a Google search to figure out what type of car you were talking about. I've mostly seen the 500E model pictures (I'm going to type this reply and go back to looking, to see some 300e models) and I love 'em. I was behind a car just like these 500Es the other day and was BS'ing with my wife about how cool they look.
Can you recommend a site to do some more specific researching on these cars? What's the difference between the 500 and 300 models (I'll probably know by the time you read this, haha)?
And this might be a silly question, but how are the interiors and options available? I have to sell this to the wife, and we have a baby on the way... Priorities!
Thanks!
I do know a LSx engine is a viable alternative to a huge amount of other engines when talking about converting, and my statement stemmed from that. So no offense.
Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
How about a w124 mercedes(300e 86-95)
Can you recommend a site to do some more specific researching on these cars? What's the difference between the 500 and 300 models (I'll probably know by the time you read this, haha)?
And this might be a silly question, but how are the interiors and options available? I have to sell this to the wife, and we have a baby on the way... Priorities!
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic
And this might be a silly question, but how are the interiors and options available? I have to sell this to the wife, and we have a baby on the way... Priorities!
Thanks!
Thanks!
And AWD to make it safer to drive in the rain (and maybe some snow) were plusses for the Bravada. I used to enjoy the fact that my Z28 would spin the tires in the rain. But now that I've matured a bit (wife and kid) I don't find tires spinning at 45mph in 3rd or 4th gear all that exciting (more terrifying) especially when you really need to be picking up speed to 70mph in order to merge into traffic and are running out of merge lane.
Good luck deciding what to build, convincing the wife, collecting the funds and parts, and getting it built. You'd be suprised how big a distraction a cute little baby can be.....
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Originally Posted by JustDreamin
I was in the same boat when I picked the Bravada. Had to sell it to the wife, and had a daughter on the way (which means a car seat HAS to fit). My Z28 is fun, but the backseat isn't exactly carseat friendly (it fits, but just barely, and she can kick the back of the seat without any trouble). Which is why I was looking for 4doors with a decent backseat.
And AWD to make it safer to drive in the rain (and maybe some snow) were plusses for the Bravada. I used to enjoy the fact that my Z28 would spin the tires in the rain. But now that I've matured a bit (wife and kid) I don't find tires spinning at 45mph in 3rd or 4th gear all that exciting (more terrifying) especially when you really need to be picking up speed to 70mph in order to merge into traffic and are running out of merge lane.
Good luck deciding what to build, convincing the wife, collecting the funds and parts, and getting it built. You'd be suprised how big a distraction a cute little baby can be.....
'JustDreamin'
And AWD to make it safer to drive in the rain (and maybe some snow) were plusses for the Bravada. I used to enjoy the fact that my Z28 would spin the tires in the rain. But now that I've matured a bit (wife and kid) I don't find tires spinning at 45mph in 3rd or 4th gear all that exciting (more terrifying) especially when you really need to be picking up speed to 70mph in order to merge into traffic and are running out of merge lane.
Good luck deciding what to build, convincing the wife, collecting the funds and parts, and getting it built. You'd be suprised how big a distraction a cute little baby can be.....
'JustDreamin'
Did you have a website detailing your Bravada build? I like the idea of AWD and LS1 power, especially here in Oregon...
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Sorry, no website on the Bravada....I have some underhood pictures, I can send to you if you'd like. PM me an email address if you're interested.
And I'd be happy to discuss my Bravada build with you, if you've got any questions....
'JustDreamin'
And I'd be happy to discuss my Bravada build with you, if you've got any questions....
'JustDreamin'
Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
Last time I checked this was "LS1" tech. Why does he have no place here?
ANY bmw would benefit from an LS motor. No need for more than ONE cam in a V8.
ANY bmw would benefit from an LS motor. No need for more than ONE cam in a V8.
Originally Posted by Bimmer Tech
*slaps forehead* It's a 4.4L V8, 286 hp. Called the M62. The M60 was the 4.0L that was in the previous gen 5 series, pre '96. Moves a 4000 lbs car pretty good.
BMW = Bitch Moan & Whine Fuzzylogic - look on ebay for 300e, they are all over.
end all of performance? When did I say that?
BMW engines are good for one type of people, bmw shop owners.
LSx engines are cheap, reliable power. period.
I myself have drivin(and worked on) 540's and not very impressed
however e46 m3's are good looking cars and would make a great LSx canidate
Originally Posted by Bimmer Tech
Sorry guys, but it's time to rant. The above statement is one of the most ignorant things I've heard in a long time. THE LSX GROUP OF ENGINES IS NOT THE END-ALL OF PERFORMANCE. THERE ARE BETTER ENGINES OUT THERE. PERIOD.
BMW engines are good for one type of people, bmw shop owners.
LSx engines are cheap, reliable power. period.
I myself have drivin(and worked on) 540's and not very impressed
however e46 m3's are good looking cars and would make a great LSx canidate
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Comparing BMW V8s to LS series engines is like comparing apples to oranges. BMW engines on the whole are probably the most advanced engines out there, from the lowley 3 series all the way up to the RR Phantom V12. Valve Tronic, Direct Injection etc are cutting edge technologies that just can't be compared to a pushrod V8. Lets face it guys, the beauty of the LS engine is its simplicity, compactness, low weight and low cost, thats it. Bang for buck the LS1 wins. Horsepower per liter BMW wins hands down. If I could afford to put a BMW V8 in my little 318 I wouldn't be on this forum looking for alternative power options. My $0.02.
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Originally Posted by eurautodave
volvo, volvo, volvo
i bought my 94 940 for $1K(it needed an engine). the body is clean and straight. i just finished a 98 ls1 a4 swap and ran a 13.9 at 97 with serious traction problems. the stock 4.10 gears will handle the torque but are way to short for comfortable highway cruise. i'm going to pick-up some 3.31 gears this weekend and have a nice 150 mph autobahn cruiser in a couple of weeks. the midsize package is perfect and talk about sleeper...plus volvos are legendary for their robustness. i love this car...
i bought my 94 940 for $1K(it needed an engine). the body is clean and straight. i just finished a 98 ls1 a4 swap and ran a 13.9 at 97 with serious traction problems. the stock 4.10 gears will handle the torque but are way to short for comfortable highway cruise. i'm going to pick-up some 3.31 gears this weekend and have a nice 150 mph autobahn cruiser in a couple of weeks. the midsize package is perfect and talk about sleeper...plus volvos are legendary for their robustness. i love this car...
Hey eurautodave, you have any more pics of your build. You should start your own thread on that Volvo buildup.
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Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
Fuzzylogic - look on ebay for 300e, they are all over.
end all of performance? When did I say that?
BMW engines are good for one type of people, bmw shop owners.
LSx engines are cheap, reliable power. period.
I myself have drivin(and worked on) 540's and not very impressed
however e46 m3's are good looking cars and would make a great LSx canidate
end all of performance? When did I say that?
BMW engines are good for one type of people, bmw shop owners.
LSx engines are cheap, reliable power. period.
I myself have drivin(and worked on) 540's and not very impressed
however e46 m3's are good looking cars and would make a great LSx canidate
Maybe camming a "LS1 is cheap"
Building a LS1 into making big power number isnt what so ever......The power you get is good for the price, But is it cheap? NOPE
Late 80's/early 90's BMW would be great. 4 door 3 Series; You can fit an LS1 under the hood, RWD, light, and have a very nice interior (for the time) w/ leather, etc. You can pick up a chassis with a beat engine but in decent shape for 1500 bucks all day long.