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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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this may be a no brainer but i just built my vats box and realized i didnt know where to hook it up to the pcm.....

is it the c230 blue plug pin e (pcm 55 theft deterrent fuel enable?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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why not just have the vats tuned out of the pcm
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because i want it.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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tried hooking the out put to the c230 plug pin e. and it wont stay running. also my vats box is putting out a 9 volt signal? i thought this box would produce a 5 volt signal.........
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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I am pretty sure it hooks to C2, pin 30, so it should work if the box is built right.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Do as you please, but you do realize the box you built bypasses the VATS anyways.
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thats what i want, so then i can just unplug it and take it with me. i just cant get it to work!

plus i dont have an extra 600 to buy that hp tuner stuff.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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thats what i want, so then i can just unplug it and take it with me. i just cant get it to work!
You won't have to worry about your car getting stole everytime you go somewhere.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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I got your PM...then found your thread. You are correct with the hook up. Goes to the fuel enable pin.

Can you post what schematic you used to build your vats box? I have a feeling, if you built it off the ones floating around, that its not right.

When I first built mine, I followed the directions/schematics to a "T" and mine wouldnt work. Then I actually LOOKED at the schematic, and figured out where the issue was. It was one wiring be out of place on the IC if I remember correctly. I would have to dig a bit to find out which one..

But post what you did anyway. Also...the boxes on ebay are cheap. Like $20 if I remember correctly. And are more compact that building your own usually. I ended up buying one. The only reason I built mine, was because I wanted it to run right then and there. So 30 minutes later i had one built...but the next day I ordered a pre-built one.

And for everyone saying just tune it out... I DID have it tuned out. Still wouldnt run. Hooked up the box, and it ran. Fast forward to a few months later...started running without the box. No one can see to give me an answer to that one.

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EDIT: Nevermind. Check this thread out. I totally forgot I made this thread when I built my box. Tells you how to fix your box if you went right off of those schematics. You have to use a combo of the schematics and the actual IC diagram. Its the ground wire that was messed up.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...630&highlight=

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Do you know how small the ones on ebay are? I might tempted to get one and add the wire back into my harness.
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but im starting to think i could have built it totally sdrawkcab! i realize now that i dont know wich way to read the box my ic came in. it has a notch in the picture indicating wich end is wich, but do you read that from the top of the ic or the bottom. i read it as looking at the top of the chip, but is that right?
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Should be from the top down... On the top of my IC there were numbers that corresponded to the diagram on the box though...so thats what I used to orient the whole thing. If you even think that you could have built it wrong, Ide de-solder everything, and re-build it.

Also, make sure you arent heating that IC up too much. And also make sure you have some sort of anti static protection when messing with it. You CAN mess it up... And its not like its a big deal, but you dont want it to screw up your PCM in the process...that is a big deal.

LS1MCSS: Ide say the pre-built box is about the size of a zippo lighter. Maybe a bit smaller. Its pretty tiny... I added a 3-terminal weather pack connector, and used velcro to hold it inside my console. I had it so I could pull the box off, unplug it, and the car was dead (well...run 2 seconds then dead). It also has alittle light on it so you can see its working.

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The best way to keep from overheating the IC is to use an IC socket so you can plug it in after you finish soldering. http://www.radioshack.com/family/ind...e%2FIC+sockets
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you know i was a little worried about overheating it, because i wanted good solder joints( i kept thinking i was close to the danger zone). ic socket is a great idea, cant believe i didnt do that. the best ideas are usually the simplest.
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ghetto i just ordered the same one you did.
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The best way to keep from overheating the IC is to use an IC socket so you can plug it in after you finish soldering.
OH yeah... I forgot about the socket. I did use one of those... Makes it MUCH easier to assemble. Good call on that.

leonpiper69: Did you get the one that has the colored transparent case? I forget the brand/seller name... It works well though.

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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i got this one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-VA...mZ220180832610
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Yup.. Baker Electronics. Thats the one... Let us know how it works out for ya!

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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she runs , works perfect, im pretty sure i overheated the ic. next time i'll use a socket. i still may fix my box just for fun and see if it works. thanks guys.
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