69 Chevelle with LS3
I had a Mcleod Bellhousing but sold it and went to the Keisler unit.
Have you noticed that with the engine close to level, the header pipes actually point up about 1 degree or so? For my engine to sit level I have a 1/ 1/2 inch wood block between the tranny mount and the crossmember.
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Tom
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I messed with the bell housing Today. This tool is from Browell bell Housings. I ran into a snag as the collar is to thick for my flywheel bolts (I have not searched yet, but if anybodys know what size off the top of head please let me know). It was a real snug on the crank so I tried it anyway. I had them machine the collar at 4.6825" as the Bell I.D. is 4.6875". This will give me the .005 diff and should work as a go/no go indicator. As you can see it fit on but I suspect that there is a chance that without it fastened it possibly could move. I will get longer bolts and try on another day.
I messed with the bell housing Today. This tool is from Browell bell Housings. I ran into a snag as the collar is to thick for my flywheel bolts (I have not searched yet, but if anybodys know what size off the top of head please let me know). It was a real snug on the crank so I tried it anyway. I had them machine the collar at 4.6825" as the Bell I.D. is 4.6875". This will give me the .005 diff and should work as a go/no go indicator. As you can see it fit on but I suspect that there is a chance that without it fastened it possibly could move. I will get longer bolts and try on another day.
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I also bolted up the Flywheel, clutch and press plate to measure for Hydraulic TOB. I came up with about 3.125". I also followed Andrew's(Project Gatago) advice and traded in my plastic $3.00 "Donkey" tool as he coined it for the Quartermaster piece. Thanks for the tip.
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Tom,
Looks good. I think the Browell tool is used a lot by circle track engine builders. They don't check bellhousings. They align the bell and bore the bell and block for an oversized pin. The bellhousings go with a specific block. I am glad you picked up the Quarter Master alignment tool. It really makes like easier when installing the clutch. We all know how frustrating it can be to stab a transmission into the bellhousing, on your back, fighting a misaligned clutch.
Are you going to get the Keisler hydraulics? What bearing are you going to use?
Andrew
Looks good. I think the Browell tool is used a lot by circle track engine builders. They don't check bellhousings. They align the bell and bore the bell and block for an oversized pin. The bellhousings go with a specific block. I am glad you picked up the Quarter Master alignment tool. It really makes like easier when installing the clutch. We all know how frustrating it can be to stab a transmission into the bellhousing, on your back, fighting a misaligned clutch.
Are you going to get the Keisler hydraulics? What bearing are you going to use?
Andrew
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Andrew. Yes, I am gonna go that way. I like the bracket /MC set up based on what you posted on it. With regards to the TOB I may just buy the one they supply (Keisler) as it is already set up for a TKO. I don't know what brand it is, but I am not gonna be making crazy HP so I hope to be okay. As for the Browell tool- yah it's kinda a neat idea I thought for some of us that work solo. Here is a little more detailed right up on it http://www.camaros.org/bellhousings.shtml
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Tom
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Tom
It slipped my mind that you were using the TKO. I believe the bearing that Keisler uses is made by Sachs. It is a German OEM supplier, similar to Luk or Valeo in the US. I have no doubt their setup will work fine. I am actually going to get a slightly smaller MC. I saw on the Wilwood website that they make a .700" bore that is externally the same. The smaller bore will give me a lighter pedal and less bearing travel. As I have it now, there is plenty of bearing travel at the bearing.
Andrew
Andrew. Yes, I am gonna go that way. I like the bracket /MC set up based on what you posted on it. With regards to the TOB I may just buy the one they supply (Keisler) as it is already set up for a TKO. I don't know what brand it is, but I am not gonna be making crazy HP so I hope to be okay. As for the Browell tool- yah it's kinda a neat idea I thought for some of us that work solo. Here is a little more detailed right up on it http://www.camaros.org/bellhousings.shtml
Thanks,
Tom
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Tom
They told me the TOB is some German unit off a BMW. But they machine it to fit inside the bellhousing hole. Kind of disconcerting to see half the hydraulic fitting machined away from the TOB. So be careful threading in the metric fitting to hook up the hydraulics.
I have the same setup with my LS2 and the edelbrock headers. They measure 21 1/2 from center to center.
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WOW! Thats what me and my father would like to do. I keep going back and forth between my favorite, a '69-'71 chevelle, my dads old car, a '69 charger, or like a '67 or '68 coronet. Keep up the great work! Definitely keep us updated with pics.
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Sorry for the delay as I am out of town and I will look when I am back tonight.
Tom
Edit, Sorry did not see prior as it looks like Ben got it for you.
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Keisler includes detailed instructions about how to determine the correct installed height of the bearing. It is similar to the process that I vent through to properly position my Quarter Master bearing.
Andrew
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