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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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looks great. now build another hot side exactly like that just with a T6 flange and sell it to me. good work man crazy fab work
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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You do great work! I really like the way you show part's list with part#, you have helped me a lot!!
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Thanks for the compliments! I try to make this as clear and readable as possible with the hopes that it will help someone with a generic question or maybe a more specific problem, such as a turbo setup for a Nova Pictures always help lots too!

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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Awesome build! You are truely a pioneer. Clean and precise work! Your welding looks 10 times better than mine. I can't wait for a video of this car screaming down the road.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tsnow678
Awesome build! You are truely a pioneer. Clean and precise work! Your welding looks 10 times better than mine. I can't wait for a video of this car screaming down the road.
Yes. Great build.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Awsome build..
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Not too much progress to report. Back in school for my final term so away from the car, still whipped up some waterpump spacers in the school shop though...



This is the last stage that I left the hot side piping at, have to complete the merge and about an extra foot of pipe then it'll be done!

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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the water pump spacers turned out great!!
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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I agree with Jimbo the spacers look real nice. Did you do them on a manual or CNC?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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I did them on a manual mill, woulda been nice to CNC them to make the outer profile curves smooth but can't be too picky!
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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I dont have much experience with my mill and it is in need of some serious alignment. I am limited on the tooling I have in my possesion. I am sure someone with your talents could do a much better job with what I have. I need to sell off my surface grinder. Its hydrualic fed. You interested??? Sell it to you cheap. Its a haus, all cast iron DoAll brand.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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Hah as much as I'd LOVE to own a surface grinder, I simply wouldn't have the room in the garage to store it nor the money to have it shipped... sorry!

Took a weekend trip back to work on the car, got little done, but is still progress...





There is a minimum of a finger-width clearance next to the closest areas: block, a-arm cross shaft bolt, and waterpump heater outlets...



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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 02:56 AM
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Looks good. If school is footing the bill for materials you should try to mass-produce those spacers.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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WOW! I leave the country for a couple of months and look at you go! I better get back on things or yours' will be rockin' before mine! A couple of things I thought of while catching up... When I did the alignment on my car I ended up using all of the upper a arm bolts. Meaning the A-arm pivot shaft is tipped all the way in (close to where your up pipe is) just a heads up. Also, after you finish your welding, be sure to surface your v-band flanges. they will be warped and will leak. Trust me on that. I used a belt sander (big one at custom metalcraft) On a side note I had to use the same sander on the manifold flanges for the Iltis, and it worked great. The head to manifold surface had damage. Have you given any thought to coil pack and wiring location yet? Are you going to coat your pipes? Give me a call next time you're back in town we'll get that beer.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Mark! You're back!!

I definitely thought of giving as much room around the a-arm cross shaft bolts as possible, and I've prettymuch pushed it to the max. There is enough room to completely remove the nut (see finger-clearance pcis) as well as tons of room in front to slip a wrench in there... I actually thoguht ahead!

Definintely going to resurface the turbo flange. My turbo came with a stainless steel gasket, will probably include that too.

As for the manifolds, they came with new stamped stainless gaskets as well, so unsure of whether or not I'll need to surface those.

The entire hotside will come off for blasting and ceramic coating (funny I have a school project now on ceramic coatings inside engines) once they're fully welded and mocked up to triple-check clearance/placement of everything.

Coil pack relocation will happen. The LS3 manifolds when flipped upside down actually give tons of spark plug clearance, especially since the plugs angle down as they exit the heads. I plan on using the bolt holes that fasten the coilpacks to the valvecovers to bolt them longitudinally (front to back) in a compact manner, then bolted to some braces supporting them to the block. Get them as low and far from hot pipe heat as possible. Most likely will require custom length plug cables though. I've seen this done a few times already and it looks compact & hidden.

Might use those insulator covers for the spark plug wires, but defintely will use them for the heater hoses coming into the waterpump there. Also on the fence about a turbo blanket or a coating on the hotside...
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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this is awesome. have been thinking about a project for my son and I to do (he is 8). Definitely want a turbo'd machine that we can all cruise around in without my better half getting pissy about the fumes from gas and exhaust and such. Will try to stay in touch with this build...

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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thats some impressive bracing on that flange. I always figured thats how it should look, but i never see mounts like that.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Is that turbo a variable vane turbo? If so how are you going to control it?
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 12:53 AM
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Marktainium... No this is an aftermarket Turbonetics unit, I ditched the VGT Holset sadly because I realized it just wouldn't be close to effecient at the low boost I wanted on a 6.0L gas V8.

Turbonetics TC76 with F1 (68mm) wheel and 0.96 A/R hot side...





Much practice makes results that I kinda like!



Merge pipe all tacked together, SO MUCH time in this one...



Custom LQ4 Nova turbo hot side piping fully welded (sans wastegate flange). LOTS of time but I think the results speak for themselves, great clearance around everything and no mods to the engine bay required to fit the setup... I'm happy!







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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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Nice tigging!!!
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