Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-29-2011 | 09:37 PM
  #501  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

Do you think the huge hole in the bottom of it will impede oil flow/capacity?
Old 05-30-2011 | 01:39 AM
  #502  
Marktainium's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 445
Likes: 1
From: New Westminster, B.C., Canada
Default

It increases the capacity. Just keep adding oil till you see it on the dipstick.

Seriously though, you could weld it up at your work. I tried but as it cooled the welds kept cracking. I ordered a new one.
Old 05-30-2011 | 08:06 AM
  #503  
tsnow678's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,458
Likes: 1
From: Germanton, N.C.
Default

Frojoe sorry I asked about the capacity. What about this: since you have all this talent and the machines to use, make your own custom pan. I have no doubt you could make an awesome one off pan for your specific needs. I am sure you can make better than the dumbasses at Moroso. An aluminum sheetmetal pan with the properly located bung and baffling. Make the oil filter a remote location and use that to supply the oil to the turbo.
Old 05-30-2011 | 11:29 AM
  #504  
71ANTICARB's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
Default

He could cut the pan off and still use the flange so that the oil filter is still located in the factory position.
Old 05-30-2011 | 02:36 PM
  #505  
Jimbo1367's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,927
Likes: 608
Default

Originally Posted by 71ANTICARB
He could cut the pan off and still use the flange so that the oil filter is still located in the factory position.
Good idea.
Old 05-30-2011 | 05:55 PM
  #506  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

I appreciate all the suggestions, but the original reason for modifying the truck pan a 2nd time was to save money as well as time. Since the pan has been modified already, it doesn't make much sense to use an LS1 pan, because even if it does have the same oil capacity that my modded truck pan has, it would still need to have the notch mod done to it to make it clear the steering linkage.

Also, I did think of making my own pan, whether it be sheet steel or aluminum, but it'd be too much work to mill my own flange for either material. And cutting the flange off my used one would be out of the question because there would be so little material left, that even with good clamping and copious tack welds, I'd be afraid that the cast flange would warp. That is also not to mention sandblasting & scotchbrite cleaning the entire flange perimeter, which wouldn't guaruntee that the porous cast aluminum was clean, oil can soak in and weep out quite a lot.

Now I just need to create two oil return/drain holes into it and it'll be over with haha.
Old 05-30-2011 | 09:03 PM
  #507  
tsnow678's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,458
Likes: 1
From: Germanton, N.C.
Default

When do you expect to fire this beast off?
Old 05-30-2011 | 09:44 PM
  #508  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

I just banged myself up biking so progress will have to wait until later in the week, but I'm reeeeeally hoping that I can have it idling if not driveable by my bday at the beginning of July.
Old 05-30-2011 | 11:10 PM
  #509  
68maroSam's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

Looking great. Love the custom parts.
Old 05-31-2011 | 10:05 PM
  #510  
Marktainium's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 445
Likes: 1
From: New Westminster, B.C., Canada
Default

See, bicycles are bad!


Old 06-01-2011 | 12:17 AM
  #511  
71ANTICARB's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
Default

What'd you do?
Old 06-01-2011 | 08:09 AM
  #512  
Chicago TDP's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
Default

that is easy to fix!
Old 06-04-2011 | 12:46 AM
  #513  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

Oil pan stuff. I was too lazy to find the oil level sensor to plug my pan, and Mark's pan has, well, cracks in it, so measuring/comparing capacity didn't happen, but here are some comparison pics of my modded truck pan to a stock fbody. The one thing that concerns me is the level/height of the oil filter receptacle (better word for it??).

Sharpied area is what would still have to be chopped and removed to clear short idler/pitman arm assembly on my Nova, making my draglink stick out the furthest back from the crossmember. Sharpied area extends about 2" into the pan, towards the back of the pan.













I modded the bolt-on tray thingy that keeps oil in the sump and made it more badass, probably gonna tack in a v-shaped baffle like the fbody too.







Attached Thumbnails LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-51.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-52.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-53.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-54.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-55.jpg  

LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-56.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-57.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-59.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-60.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-61.jpg  

Old 06-04-2011 | 12:51 AM
  #514  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

Flipped the driver side coil pack bracket to make all the coil packs "face in towards the engine" at the request of everyone under the sun haha. It doesn't look as bad as I thought it would with the coil packs' controller wiring on top.



Always liked the crinkle paint look on valvecovers, dunno why, makes the engine look a little more different than normal. Pics definitely don't do the finish justice, the end result far exceeded what I was expecting out of a spraybomb can.





Attached Thumbnails LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-1.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-2.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-3.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-4.jpg  
Old 06-04-2011 | 01:06 AM
  #515  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

I didn't want to spend $240+shipping on a Wilwood 7/8" brake master cylinder that would be more blingy-looking than I want anyways, so went OEM (which I prefer the look of, call me crazy). After much internet searching, found a 7/8" bore aluminum M/C from an '85-89 Isuzu Trooper. Thing is super light and simple, functional looking... I like.





Supporting plate to go on engine side of firewall, to space the M/C out from the firewall a bit to give clearance to unscrew the reservoir cap, as well as to add rigidity to the enginebay side of the firewall where the brake pedal bracket bolts to the firewall.

Also has a pocket milled into it so the bracket for the combination/proportioning valve can flushmount behind it.



I'm cheap and think I threw out my old cast iron manual M/C, so I just made my own pushrod/clevis for the 240SX brake pedal. Clevis pivot hole is drilled so the bolt is a tight hand press-fit into the clevis, but the brake arm hole has a loose clearance fit so things rotate freely. The nut on the bolt bottoms out on the shoulder of the bolt before pinching the clevis giving everything nice easy rotation, and I also drilled a cotter pin hole so none of this jiggles loose and I loose braking connection.











Clean, compact packaging with a non-descript raw aluminum look.

Attached Thumbnails LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-21.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-22.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-23.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-24.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-25.jpg  

LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-26.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-27.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-28.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-29.jpg  
Old 06-04-2011 | 06:21 AM
  #516  
Doug G's Avatar
10 Second Club
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,336
Likes: 132
From: Harford Co. Maryland
Default

As for the coil packs I guess you'll need to flip them and keep the bracket the way it is....PITA I'm sure


Having access to an end-mill and lathe is great, ain't it Love when the boss goes on vacation



Nice work !
Old 06-05-2011 | 10:49 AM
  #517  
Marktainium's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 445
Likes: 1
From: New Westminster, B.C., Canada
Default

Originally Posted by 71ANTICARB
What'd you do?
I was lowering the car down off of the jackstands, lifting at the front cross member, when the wheel fell off my trolley jack, the jack stopped moving and the car lurched forwards making the jack's lifting pad thing hop off of the cross member and land on the pan. Needless to say, the weight of the car on the oil pan was a bit too much.
Old 06-05-2011 | 08:41 PM
  #518  
frojoe's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 28
From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Default

It was a sunny day today so I took the engine out for a walk. Still have to ceramic coat the hotside pipes...





Attached Thumbnails LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-1.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-3.jpg   LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova-2.jpg  
Old 06-06-2011 | 06:26 AM
  #519  
FakeSnake's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Default

looks great, if you have some free time you should shave that intake manifold smooth and paint it!
Old 06-06-2011 | 06:39 AM
  #520  
71ANTICARB's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
Default

That looks killer.

And that sucks Mark.


Quick Reply: LQ4 into a 3rd Gen/1972 Nova



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:02 AM.