Who has a roll bar on their drop top???
02-28-2008, 10:50 AM
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it states,
" Pure Stock Street Legal rules are specifically intended for street-legal vehicles that are production stock, as manufactured and sold by the original automobile manufacturer."
Since bolt-on's are modifications that were installed not by the manufacture, thus, you are not applicable for Pure Stock. I believe this class is regulated towards cars like my Z06...
" Pure Stock Street Legal rules are specifically intended for street-legal vehicles that are production stock, as manufactured and sold by the original automobile manufacturer."
Since bolt-on's are modifications that were installed not by the manufacture, thus, you are not applicable for Pure Stock. I believe this class is regulated towards cars like my Z06...
02-28-2008, 12:23 PM
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right, and i agree..
but we all know there is a grey area when considering what IS a power-adder.
IS it more like a nitrous kit or a FI. kit.... or some stroker kit. OR, is it anything that adds power?
who knows? All i know is that if you don't like a cage/rollbar in your car, that is fine...
i may feel differently but that is ok. I would rather have an ugly cage (
) that will save my *** than not having one and have to move my seat all the way up because my rear passenger demands more leg room than i am willing to give!
but we all know there is a grey area when considering what IS a power-adder.
IS it more like a nitrous kit or a FI. kit.... or some stroker kit. OR, is it anything that adds power?
who knows? All i know is that if you don't like a cage/rollbar in your car, that is fine...
i may feel differently but that is ok. I would rather have an ugly cage (
) that will save my *** than not having one and have to move my seat all the way up because my rear passenger demands more leg room than i am willing to give!
02-28-2008, 12:41 PM
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right, and i agree..
but we all know there is a grey area when considering what IS a power-adder.
IS it more like a nitrous kit or a FI. kit.... or some stroker kit. OR, is it anything that adds power?
who knows? All i know is that if you don't like a cage/rollbar in your car, that is fine...
i may feel differently but that is ok. I would rather have an ugly cage ( ) that will save my *** than not having one and have to move my seat all the way up because my rear passenger demands more leg room than i am willing to give!
but we all know there is a grey area when considering what IS a power-adder.
IS it more like a nitrous kit or a FI. kit.... or some stroker kit. OR, is it anything that adds power?
who knows? All i know is that if you don't like a cage/rollbar in your car, that is fine...
i may feel differently but that is ok. I would rather have an ugly cage (
) that will save my *** than not having one and have to move my seat all the way up because my rear passenger demands more leg room than i am willing to give!I feel ya on the safety part and i am all for cages in cars that need it to be safe. I am not a supporter of a cage for any other reason other than safety or stability (frame rigity) for launching and whatnot.... other than that a cage is kinda pointless IMO. To each their own in this case but unless you are running unbelieveable times or have huge plans for the car my .02 is dont waste your money and sacrafice the resale value of the car at hand.
About the rear passengers... If they wanna sit in the back and go for a ride....i will let them but they dont get anymore leg room than i am willing to give. nobody belongs in a F-bod back seat unless you are under 4' tall.
02-28-2008, 02:43 PM
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or a group of chika's!
again, couldn't agree with ya more. When i got my cage in, it killed me thinking that i was gonna kill my backseat until i saw the final product.... things changes quickly soon after that!
again, couldn't agree with ya more. When i got my cage in, it killed me thinking that i was gonna kill my backseat until i saw the final product.... things changes quickly soon after that!
03-02-2008, 06:36 PM
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I'm not sure how comfortable I would feel allowing people to ride in the back of a caged car because during an accident you never know where someones head/body is going to be flying. With that said when I do my cage it will be a welded 10pt. If I had a vert this is how it would be done! I believe its a Wolfe cage as well.
03-02-2008, 10:48 PM
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I'm not sure how comfortable I would feel allowing people to ride in the back of a caged car because during an accident you never know where someones head/body is going to be flying. With that said when I do my cage it will be a welded 10pt. If I had a vert this is how it would be done! I believe its a Wolfe cage as well.
03-02-2008, 11:13 PM
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Now what is the difference of a 1 and 5/8ths cage and a 1 and 3/4ths? Which one is going to be allowed at the track? And how can you tell what cage is what? I'm still planning on getting one for the car, but I'm looking at the jegs.com one. Its cheap and I'll be able to move some of the pieces around to give it some back seat space.
03-15-2008, 12:57 AM
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first off, do yourself a favor and call your local tracks to find out the rules with roll cages. The stipulations vary from track to track, sometimes state to state. For instance, here in SC for non-sanctioned races as in weekend track runs, roll bars are not required.....thats what that nice little waiver you sign is for
As far as the safety of roll bars goes, that earlier post about helmets is correct. I personally work in a Level 1 Trauma ICU and see a vast array of accidents and circumstances every night I work. Bottom line is, padding wont save your head and especially not from breaking your neck, your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc.
Therefore, build a cage if you race, wear a helmet if you race.
If its your daily driver, just be careful, buckle up, and dont wreck
Hope this helps, Ryan
As far as the safety of roll bars goes, that earlier post about helmets is correct. I personally work in a Level 1 Trauma ICU and see a vast array of accidents and circumstances every night I work. Bottom line is, padding wont save your head and especially not from breaking your neck, your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc.Therefore, build a cage if you race, wear a helmet if you race.
If its your daily driver, just be careful, buckle up, and dont wreck
Hope this helps, Ryan
03-15-2008, 08:40 AM
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I personally work in a Level 1 Trauma ICU and see a vast array of accidents and circumstances every night I work.
...your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc. ...
Hope this helps, Ryan
...your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc. ...
Hope this helps, Ryan
03-25-2008, 03:37 PM
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first off, do yourself a favor and call your local tracks to find out the rules with roll cages. The stipulations vary from track to track, sometimes state to state. For instance, here in SC for non-sanctioned races as in weekend track runs, roll bars are not required.....thats what that nice little waiver you sign is for As far as the safety of roll bars goes, that earlier post about helmets is correct. I personally work in a Level 1 Trauma ICU and see a vast array of accidents and circumstances every night I work. Bottom line is, padding wont save your head and especially not from breaking your neck, your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc.
Therefore, build a cage if you race, wear a helmet if you race.
If its your daily driver, just be careful, buckle up, and dont wreck
Hope this helps, Ryan
As far as the safety of roll bars goes, that earlier post about helmets is correct. I personally work in a Level 1 Trauma ICU and see a vast array of accidents and circumstances every night I work. Bottom line is, padding wont save your head and especially not from breaking your neck, your head can still hit the roll bar with a seat belt on especially in a rollover, and the rear passengers are at the most risk because of the angle of the roll bars gives them the most angles to hit their heads. The injuries range from cervical spine fractures ( which can kill you, paralyze you, cause you to have other neurological deficits ), hematomas of the brain, midline shifts of the brain, vast array of facial and skeletal fractures, etc.Therefore, build a cage if you race, wear a helmet if you race.
If its your daily driver, just be careful, buckle up, and dont wreck
Hope this helps, Ryan
agreed... that is why you remove your stock seat belts and get some real belt's. Like a 5pt.
