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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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hey guys,

I just got back from the track today and feel inlove with a new C6 that was there. He had an aftermarket exhaust, and it sounded like a cam. Maybe the LS2 just has a slightly loppy idle?

there was also a nice Z06 that I liked.


So heres my situation/question:

I just bought a '02 WS6 earlier this year, shes loaded, mint and has just over 20k miles on her. Bank appraised it at around $25k i think. I just put on Hooker Stainless steel long tubes and it came with a Borla adjustable exhaust.

I just bought an entire nitrous setup for it. NOS, wet kit, EVERY saftey feature, gauges, fuel pump, the works. But nothing is on the car yet, just the pump.

My friend (who didn't like the idea of me putting nitrous on my WS6) said I should sell my bird, my 1987 camaro (very nice), and all my nitrous stuff (since I got it all pretty fairly priced) and put that money towards a vette.


this kinda got me thinking, especialy after seeing the vettes at the track! No I don't plan on drag racing a lot, I just want something quick. I would be into the 12's with my WS6 once the nitrous is installed.

So should I sell all of that stuff, and put it towards a vette? If so, the last of the Z06's? or a C6, new Z06 whenever they come out.

Or would it just be cheaper in the long run to install my nitrous and settle for what I got now?

**okay, think about it, and come to an answer before reading on**




okay, now tell me what you decided. and then add your responses to this below. I'm 20 years old and I am in college as a mechanical engineering major. So yeah, i got some nice toys for being 20! No daddy didn't buy them, and yes I paid for them. Well the WS6 is in a loan. I waited until the end to tell you my age, since some people automatically go "what?! he's 20? no he doesn't need that!" lol

so just hear me out and give me your feelings. thanks guys

and btw, I really have no idea what a Z06 or a new C6 are going for these days. I do get GMS and all that stuff through GM, so that would knock the price down a bit if i bought new.

thanks guys!!
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
hey guys,

I just got back from the track today and feel inlove with a new C6 that was there. He had an aftermarket exhaust, and it sounded like a cam. Maybe the LS2 just has a slightly loppy idle?

there was also a nice Z06 that I liked.


So heres my situation/question:

I just bought a '02 WS6 earlier this year, shes loaded, mint and has just over 20k miles on her. Bank appraised it at around $25k i think. I just put on Hooker Stainless steel long tubes and it came with a Borla adjustable exhaust.

I just bought an entire nitrous setup for it. NOS, wet kit, EVERY saftey feature, gauges, fuel pump, the works. But nothing is on the car yet, just the pump.

My friend (who didn't like the idea of me putting nitrous on my WS6) said I should sell my bird, my 1987 camaro (very nice), and all my nitrous stuff (since I got it all pretty fairly priced) and put that money towards a vette.


this kinda got me thinking, especialy after seeing the vettes at the track! No I don't plan on drag racing a lot, I just want something quick. I would be into the 12's with my WS6 once the nitrous is installed.

So should I sell all of that stuff, and put it towards a vette? If so, the last of the Z06's? or a C6, new Z06 whenever they come out.

Or would it just be cheaper in the long run to install my nitrous and settle for what I got now?

**okay, think about it, and come to an answer before reading on**




okay, now tell me what you decided. and then add your responses to this below. I'm 20 years old and I am in college as a mechanical engineering major. So yeah, i got some nice toys for being 20! No daddy didn't buy them, and yes I paid for them. Well the WS6 is in a loan. I waited until the end to tell you my age, since some people automatically go "what?! he's 20? no he doesn't need that!" lol

so just hear me out and give me your feelings. thanks guys

and btw, I really have no idea what a Z06 or a new C6 are going for these days. I do get GMS and all that stuff through GM, so that would knock the price down a bit if i bought new.

thanks guys!!
i bought my 04 z06 four months ago and love it. however, you are going to school, your payments will be higher. insurance will be higher for sure if u get the z06 and also repais are more money most of the time. it will be probably difficult at some point to be able to afford the good parts on a vette. i would say add head/cam and spray on that ta and have fun with it. graduate, get a job and then buy the new z06 coming out. if you rush into getting the vette and then your insurance is high, car payment is higher then not much money for mods then something happens and you are forced to sell..then what? you have no car!!! keep the ta, enjoy it and it is still a bad looking car either way.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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I would stick with the TA. Wait a while and pick up a used C6 Z06. The C5 Z06 is a great car and everything, but the TA is a little more practical for someone that is going to school.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by whitecamaross
i bought my 04 z06 four months ago and love it. however, you are going to school, your payments will be higher. insurance will be higher for sure if u get the z06 and also repais are more money most of the time. it will be probably difficult at some point to be able to afford the good parts on a vette. i would say add head/cam and spray on that ta and have fun with it. graduate, get a job and then buy the new z06 coming out. if you rush into getting the vette and then your insurance is high, car payment is higher then not much money for mods then something happens and you are forced to sell..then what? you have no car!!! keep the ta, enjoy it and it is still a bad looking car either way.
I will say this. I planing on picking up a C5 Vette soon and the insurance quotes I have at 21 have the TA about 250 more then a vette every 6 months.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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thanks guys for the replies.

i'll comment a little bit, hopefully you can reply back if you still feel the same, or if i changed your mind.

I have a daily driver. The camaro and TA are just my weekend toys. They aren't driven to school, or even every day. Hell I only put 130 miles on my camaro this year! I just figured, maybe one car, easier to take care of. garage space is limited, i can't keep them spotless i like normally do. etc etc

As far as parts, the vette or ta will have expensive parts. I was thinking about the vette b/c i really don't want to mod the hell out of the TA. I am keeping everything and doing everything clean so I can turn it back to stock in a weekend if i wanted. I figured, if I got a vette, I'd still have the performance (i think??) and not have to mod anything.

As far as insurance I am paying $50 a month for full coverage on my TA. I had a poll on ls1.com awhile back and I was the cheapest out of the hundreds of people who responded. I have this for several reasons. I live in a small town, things are less expensive than a bigger city. We have 6 vehicles on our plan right now, so that'll lower it. I'll be 21 next year, so my rates will drop. The TA is registered as a "recreational vehicle" since i only drive it a few months out of the year, and hardly any miles. Yes the vette will be more, but chances are not as high as what some of you guys are paying. Plus living in ohio, with long winters, its stored a lot with fire and theft only. Oh, and I'm not listed as the primary on the TA, that helps a lot also havin the beater car lets me get away with that


so with that. anybody change there minds? more to add?

How much is a low mileage '04 Z06 going for? Or a C6 with GMS discount?
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Matt clean out your PM box.

Here's a copy of what I was sending you.

I really don't know what to tell you. I can tell you've Ive had the same thoughts though, but I'm in way to deep with the Camaro already. Sounds like you just want a quick car to cruise around in. I would say if you can line up a vette at a decent price go for it. Used C6s are poping up for under $45K here. However, I don't think that you'll ever move the bird if priced over $20K.

BTW: keep the nitrous kit for the vette.

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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looks like i'll probably stick with my bird and go with nitrous and maybe a H/C package down the road

what is the average 1/4 mile time for a '04 Z06? and C6?
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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I've had a few F-bodies The vette is a better car, my tuner said it best "F-bodies are nice go fast cars, but if you have the means the C5 is a big jump in every catagory except a back seat"

You could pick up a LOW LOW mile 01-02 Z06 (same car as 04) for around 29-32 if you look hard. The 04's are going for 10K more or so. The C6's are at 50k easy around here...

I had this with 425rwhp and I've never regretted selling it and buying the Z06...

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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I just recently bought my Z06 this year, but had my 71 since I was in college. The Z is a great car and fun to drive, but I do not think I could have afforded it in college. A clutch job on the Z I just bought cost me about 1200 dollars. So if something breaks and you do not have a warrenty it will be expensive. My 71 I do most of the work myself so it is alot cheaper. Vette parts also seem to be more pricey than others like they are made of gold in some cases. Money was my main concern when I was still in school.
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I just recently bought my Z06 this year, but had my 71 since I was in college. The Z is a great car and fun to drive, but I do not think I could have afforded it in college. A clutch job on the Z I just bought cost me about 1200 dollars. So if something breaks and you do not have a warrenty it will be expensive. My 71 I do most of the work myself so it is alot cheaper. Vette parts also seem to be more pricey than others like they are made of gold in some cases. Money was my main concern when I was still in school.
Hah I had a 70 LT1 roadster in college I loved that car but it was a bueatiful turd When it was running right it was a special car but after the rear end blew, then 3 months later the the wheel bearing melted so bad the rear tire almost fell off, then the tranny started grinding I had to get rid of it....stupidist thing I every did... but that was on a "ground up restore" car and it cost some money to fix each of those things as well. Vettes just cost more money.

But if this dude can afford an 02 WS6 and a camaro as second cars then I don't think a vette is too big of a deal. Shoot you might as well do it when your young as long as insurance is inexpensive. I had two corvettes by 22, granted I didn't have much else but I always enjoyed the drives Driving into a gas station with a Mint vette and paying 4.23 in change for premium to get to work was priceless
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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hurm

this is a toughy
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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well now that you cleared that up I would definitely get a vette. The only mod I want to do on my Z06 is spray a 100 shot.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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oh....and exhaust! =P
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Get it while your young it gets harder when you get older (wifes and kids seem to hinder that well, so I hear i am single ) When I traded my 2000 12 sec M6 Z28 for my slug 99 C5 A4 (see sig for previous cars) my insurance dropped close to $60 a month, my payment went up but with the insurance change I saved 20 a month lol. Look into your insurance before you buy though. I was 24 when I bought mine and single. And like I said it dropped. From most I hear others have dropped. Corvettes are rated very well for safety vs the F Body. You may only see around 20K if you sell your car outright if you trade you be lucky to see 16K for it. Especially with the saturation of the market for used vehicles. Keep the Nitrous, tehy fit nicely on teh vette. Clutches are expensive, not even funny how much some of them go, especially if you want it to hold. As for everything else too. I have seen Z06's run 12's stock. With good tires low 12's. With the nitrous you should see 11's with a 175 thats for damn sure, if you hook. If you have the means to do it, do it. I look back and only miss the back seat. Because everything about how the vette feels over a FBody is very quick to see. Take one for a drive. Do not just look.
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Get a C5.
They aren't terribly expensive to modify unless you want a new clutch or gears and don't want to do the work yourself ($600+ in labor for each when done seperately) and the build quality is FAR superior to the F-body.

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hurm...so you guys think i should get a C5? Z06? what years?

I don't really know where to look, is it best to look online like autotrader, or ebay?

Yeah I was afraid I wouldn't beable to sell my TA for anything above 20k. Even with the bank appraising it at like 24k. What about the mods i've done? i just put on the headers. Leave 'em on? add it to the price a little?

$800 for stainless steel headers!
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this is pretty tough, i love the look of my WS6!

but i would get some looks if a 20 year old rolls up in a Z06 lol

p.s. - how much does GMS take off the sticker on a new Vette anyways? I know i saw some vette dealers on the boards

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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this is pretty tough, i love the look of my WS6!

but i would get some looks if a 20 year old rolls up in a Z06 lol

p.s. - how much does GMS take off the sticker on a new Vette anyways? I know i saw some vette dealers on the boards

You mean the GM Family plan? doesn't apply to the vette.
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is GM Family plan whats going on now? If so, no i don't mean that

GMS, my grandfather retired from GM so I get the discount off of new cars. i bought my $18k Cavalier for 11.9k lol

didn't know what the difference would be with a vette
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
is GM Family plan whats going on now? If so, no i don't mean that

GMS, my grandfather retired from GM so I get the discount off of new cars. i bought my $18k Cavalier for 11.9k lol

didn't know what the difference would be with a vette

Not sure would have to check and also check to make sure it applies to the vette. Sometimes companies keep their flag models away from the family plans.
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