Corvette Performance
C5 | Z06 | C6 | ZR1 | C7

Corvette Z06 Cam ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:08 PM
  #1  
daniel044's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
From: Katy, TX
Default Corvette Z06 Cam ???

What is the best cam that I can get for a stock Z06 without head work? I have the regular bolt ons. Exhaust, Intake, Etc.
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:39 PM
  #2  
Steve01SS's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 732
Likes: 5
From: Orlando FL
Default

G5X3 MagicStick3 or similar. The MS3 is slightly larger than the G5X3.
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:58 PM
  #3  
daniel044's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
From: Katy, TX
Default

Where can I get the ms3?
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:37 PM
  #4  
~JOSHUA's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta
Default

It's not always about going huge and considering it the "best" for a Zo6...

Both of the cams listed above will require full bolt ons/supporting mods including going steeper on the rear gears to 3.90 or 4.11 (big $$$ on a C5 diff swap)


You've got weeks of reading if you look in the Internal Engine section...
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:39 PM
  #5  
AlexLs1's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
From: Bradenton, FL
Default

Originally Posted by daniel044
Where can I get the ms3?

www.texas-speed.com

You might want to shop around though. Just my 2 cents.

Last edited by AlexLs1; Jul 11, 2007 at 10:44 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:18 PM
  #6  
00turboT/A's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default

The Ms3 is way to big. You can make the same power with alot smaller cam and keep drivability bearable
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:47 PM
  #7  
~JOSHUA's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by 00TurboT/A
The Ms3 is way to big. You can make the same power with alot smaller cam and keep drivability bearable
x2...

A 228/232 .580ish lift on a 112LSA is what I'm thinking about with mine. You can keep your stock gears, minimal cam surge, and much better on longevity compared to an MS3.

I doubt you'd be really pissed off with the specs above, bigger than that and get your wallet ready for upgrades (diff, clutch, valve spring changes, etc)
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:59 AM
  #8  
Killemall's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
Default

224/224 was a great cam for me...

my 100% bone stock c5 auto 2.73 gearrs...

13.5 at 102-103 consistently

same track in same hawaiian weather after installing stock 2002 LS6 heads and stock LS6 cam...

13.2 at 105-107 consistently

Then changed the cam to a 224/224 at the same track and same year long hawaiian conditions ran a.....

12.9 at 107-110 consistently

So the 224/224 was worth 3 mph and 3 tenths over my stock 2002 Z06 cam..


Still ran/idled like a stock car to boot
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:20 PM
  #9  
corvetteandsilverado's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, DE
Default

i posted the same thread almost about what cam is best for my C5 auto... i think im going with a MS3 and i getting the package from texas speed with the upgraded spring kit.. along with kooks LT's and running stock gears.. im hoping everything will go good
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:24 PM
  #10  
Steve01SS's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 732
Likes: 5
From: Orlando FL
Default

I call Bullshit on the gear change sorry. You DON'T need to upgrade gears. A stock 3.42 diff is PERFECTLY fine.. especially in a Z06 with an M12 trans. It has steeper gearing than a standard MN6 C5. An M12 in a Z06 is like having 3.90s with a MN6. Haha... yup I have an X3 on a 112LSA with an MN6 and 3.42's and it's perfectly fine. Daily driven for over 2 years now. I know others with VERY similar setups. with perfect drivability.

I personally know of an 03 Z06 locally with a MS3 and 3.42's. No headwork, just headers and intake. It made 420rwhp perfect drivability. TUNE is IMPORTANT!!!

Car doesn't need headwork. He mentions full boltons which I assume should include headers. Thats ALL he needs.

It's really up to you.. If you want a raspier type cam, then go for it. If you want a ***** cam, then do a 224 cam. It's all up to you.

Car will make over 400rwhp without headwork with a larger cam.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:59 PM
  #11  
V-seriesTech's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,353
Likes: 6
From: East Coast
Default

Originally Posted by Steve01SS
I call Bullshit on the gear change sorry. You DON'T need to upgrade gears. A stock 3.42 diff is PERFECTLY fine.. especially in a Z06 with an M12 trans. It has steeper gearing than a standard MN6 C5. An M12 in a Z06 is like having 3.90s with a MN6. Haha... yup I have an X3 on a 112LSA with an MN6 and 3.42's and it's perfectly fine. Daily driven for over 2 years now. I know others with VERY similar setups. with perfect drivability.

I personally know of an 03 Z06 locally with a MS3 and 3.42's. No headwork, just headers and intake. It made 420rwhp perfect drivability. TUNE is IMPORTANT!!!

Car doesn't need headwork. He mentions full boltons which I assume should include headers. Thats ALL he needs.

It's really up to you.. If you want a raspier type cam, then go for it. If you want a ***** cam, then do a 224 cam. It's all up to you.

Car will make over 400rwhp without headwork with a larger cam.

Werd.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 05:57 PM
  #12  
Eurospec2's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 668
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

Originally Posted by 00TurboT/A
The Ms3 is way to big. You can make the same power with alot smaller cam and keep drivability bearable
umm, your wrong. you cant make the same power with smaller cams, otherwise NOBODY would by the MS3 and bigger.

If tuned properly the MS3 is very liveable, and you do not NEED gears for it, i highly reccomend it
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:25 PM
  #13  
TXZ0603's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Default

MS4 on a 110LS.......hehehehehe
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:20 AM
  #14  
ls1290's Avatar
Dumb Ass Vette Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,281
Likes: 2
From: Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by TXZ0603
MS4 on a 110LS.......hehehehehe
I see your MS4 and raise you one Grand Am Cup cam: 239/251//578/578//106

I agree with Eurospec2. One can use a 'big' cam in a car if it is tuned well. Since the cars has ZO6 heads, I would go on the larger side 229/229/580ish/580ish//112 to 232/232//580ish/580ish//112. If you do mind a little lope, drop the LSA down to 111 or 110 and drop the power band in RPMs.

Keith
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:17 AM
  #15  
~JOSHUA's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by Steve01SS
It's really up to you.. If you want a raspier type cam, then go for it. If you want a ***** cam, then do a 224 cam.
I've had a 224 series cam, AND a 236 series cam in my personal cars.... along with plenty more..

You're head's in your azz if you think a 239+ duration cam is going to be the clear choice for all people. There's a hell of a lot more involved to make it drivable than "GOOD TUNING" unless you're a mullet mechanic.

What would John Lingenfelter say when building "top-shelf" daily driver Corvettes for his customers? What are the typical cam specs he uses?

I'm sure Lingenfelter says, "It's really up to you.. If you want a raspier type cam, then go for it. If you want a ***** cam, then do a 224 cam."

Last edited by ~JOSHUA; Jul 20, 2007 at 10:24 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:28 AM
  #16  
ls1290's Avatar
Dumb Ass Vette Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,281
Likes: 2
From: Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by ~JOSHUA
There's a hell of a lot more involved to make it drivable than "GOOD TUNING" unless you're a mullet mechanic.
Please share then.

Keith
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 11:45 AM
  #17  
~JOSHUA's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by ls1290
Please share then.

Keith
Seriously, I just checked back on this thread for a quick second...

I'd get sarcastic,(for fun) but I've got a person coming in to sell me his '88 Anniversary with 29k miles- he'll be here in less than 20 minutes and I need to set up the check/papers.....

and right after that set up the financing for the guy buying an '02 Lingenfelter supercharged/modded coupe at the end of today before he has to drive it back to South Carolina.

I'm no expert, but I'm not a ***** either, I'll gladly dispense my version of mullet tech if you'll let me know what you need solved....

In a couple hours I'll have some time.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:57 PM
  #18  
RobG03Z06's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Missouri City, TX
Default

LOL...I'm running a "***** cam". MTI C2 cam...224/224/581/112 LSA. Before the MTI stage 2E heads were installed, it was over 400rwhp. It's a good "baby" cam for street use and puts out good rwtq.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:01 PM
  #19  
~JOSHUA's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta
Default

RobG03Z06... What wheels are those? Nice..
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:04 PM
  #20  
RobG03Z06's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Missouri City, TX
Default

Originally Posted by ~JOSHUA
RobG03Z06... What wheels are those? Nice..
Thanks...SSR GT2-H, 18x9.5 and 18x10.5.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE