Question for myself. PIC'S******
This car is in boost all the time under load, so thats not a concern.
The tremendous lack of traction however, is a serious concern.
I'd say though, if he tried to break boost in 3rd he'd likely need 4 lanes to reign it in....
Man, let me tell you, this car will not need brake boosting. Thats for ricers that cant spool their ****....lol.
This car is in boost all the time under load, so thats not a concern.
The tremendous lack of traction however, is a serious concern.
I'd say though, if he tried to break boost in 3rd he'd likely need 4 lanes to reign it in....
This car is in boost all the time under load, so thats not a concern.
The tremendous lack of traction however, is a serious concern.
I'd say though, if he tried to break boost in 3rd he'd likely need 4 lanes to reign it in....
Lingenfelter has run 2.73 gears in a lot of their big powered turbo cars.
Time to add some fender flares or tub that bad boy and throw on some MT drag radials or Hossier R6's.
Only real issue is the un-predictable weather down in South Florida as you'll have to pull over in the rain storms.
Ha, its already tubbed, and running a 345 tire right now, but needs something a bit stickier...
I bought a 416 forged set-up and was looking at the Hinson Single C5 Turbo set-up for it.
I already have a built drive line and twin tex clutch.
Just waiting for the body work and paint to finish up. I converted from a coupe to FRC with a ACP Stealth Wide Body Kit. I can shove 355's or so on the back with no problem and 315's up front.
I have a turbo in my Audi but I wonder how they hit in a vette. My little A6 2.7 TT quattro drive is quite predicable, I was hoping the same for the vette.
I plan to run PS2's all the way around and will look to see what other tires are made in 18's and 19's before staraightening out my rim situation.
I have some trouble getting rims with all of the right off-sets due the 14" Wilwoods all the way around the body kit off-sets.
I wonder how the MT's or Hossier R6's would be on the street and what sizes they come in ?
That sucks. I've been following Jamie's build as I want to go turbo myself, however I want to limit my power to 650 RWHP.
I bought a 416 forged set-up and was looking at the Hinson Single C5 Turbo set-up for it.
I already have a built drive line and twin tex clutch.
Just waiting for the body work and paint to finish up. I converted from a coupe to FRC with a ACP Stealth Wide Body Kit. I can shove 355's or so on the back with no problem and 315's up front.
I have a turbo in my Audi but I wonder how they hit in a vette. My little A6 2.7 TT quattro drive is quite predicable, I was hoping the same for the vette.
I plan to run PS2's all the way around and will look to see what other tires are made in 18's and 19's before staraightening out my rim situation.
I have some trouble getting rims with all of the right off-sets due the 14" Wilwoods all the way around the body kit off-sets.
I wonder how the MT's or Hossier R6's would be on the street and what sizes they come in ?
I bought a 416 forged set-up and was looking at the Hinson Single C5 Turbo set-up for it.
I already have a built drive line and twin tex clutch.
Just waiting for the body work and paint to finish up. I converted from a coupe to FRC with a ACP Stealth Wide Body Kit. I can shove 355's or so on the back with no problem and 315's up front.
I have a turbo in my Audi but I wonder how they hit in a vette. My little A6 2.7 TT quattro drive is quite predicable, I was hoping the same for the vette.
I plan to run PS2's all the way around and will look to see what other tires are made in 18's and 19's before staraightening out my rim situation.
I have some trouble getting rims with all of the right off-sets due the 14" Wilwoods all the way around the body kit off-sets.
I wonder how the MT's or Hossier R6's would be on the street and what sizes they come in ?
With proper wastegates you should have no problem holding it back to 650, I'd say a T76 with about 8 psi max would be perfect for that power goal on a 416, but I'm no pro.
I know there are some local guys running the R6s, they work well.
Also seen some people using a Yokohama RR tire on Vipers that seems to work well also. Jamie is not a fan of DRs since they tend to have softer sidewalls, and with the coilovers on the Vette, it is not as sure footed as he likes it, at least at high speed.
I forget which tire he is looking at, but his cousin uses them on his 427 C5 Z06, which makes 560 on muscle and well over 750 on the spray, and they work well for him.
Good luck with your build.
The Hinson kit looks good, J was looking at that before he fell into this one.
With proper wastegates you should have no problem holding it back to 650, I'd say a T76 with about 8 psi max would be perfect for that power goal on a 416, but I'm no pro.
I know there are some local guys running the R6s, they work well.
Also seen some people using a Yokohama RR tire on Vipers that seems to work well also. Jamie is not a fan of DRs since they tend to have softer sidewalls, and with the coilovers on the Vette, it is not as sure footed as he likes it, at least at high speed.
I forget which tire he is looking at, but his cousin uses them on his 427 C5 Z06, which makes 560 on muscle and well over 750 on the spray, and they work well for him.
Good luck with your build.
With proper wastegates you should have no problem holding it back to 650, I'd say a T76 with about 8 psi max would be perfect for that power goal on a 416, but I'm no pro.
I know there are some local guys running the R6s, they work well.
Also seen some people using a Yokohama RR tire on Vipers that seems to work well also. Jamie is not a fan of DRs since they tend to have softer sidewalls, and with the coilovers on the Vette, it is not as sure footed as he likes it, at least at high speed.
I forget which tire he is looking at, but his cousin uses them on his 427 C5 Z06, which makes 560 on muscle and well over 750 on the spray, and they work well for him.
Good luck with your build.
Thanks for info and recommendations. Hopefully, Jamie will post up what tire combo he goes with.
I have a coil overs myself from Pfadt set at (4) in the rear and (6) in the front.
Once I get it all back together I'll have Phoenix dial it all in for the street, since I live close by their shop and they do all of SCCA vettes.
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Traction is always an issue with power when you have uncontrolable power surges due to turbo's kicking in or a high speed torque converter.
Pluse the roads down in Miami area suck for traction. I'm down here this week and the frick'n weather blows.
Rented a C6 from Hertz with paddle shifter and every time I mash it the rear comes loose on me and I have to slowly ease back off the gas pedal to straighten her out.
I'm sure the run craps don't help either. Not sure what the stall is in the car but when I stab it in while in drive it really spools up.
After driving this I much prefer the six-speed where you are more in control.
Anyway, nice jonb on install, you need to post some more updated pictures.
Pluse the roads down in Miami area suck for traction. I'm down here this week and the frick'n weather blows.
Rented a C6 from Hertz with paddle shifter and every time I mash it the rear comes loose on me and I have to slowly ease back off the gas pedal to straighten her out.
I'm sure the run craps don't help either. Not sure what the stall is in the car but when I stab it in while in drive it really spools up.
After driving this I much prefer the six-speed where you are more in control.
Anyway, nice jonb on install, you need to post some more updated pictures.
Some roads here hook, just gotta know the spots.
Seriously? seriously?
Dude. I'm thinkin a set of 2.73s would be your best friend the way the power is coming on....may almost make it drivable below 100 MPH....?
I see lots of big power turbo cars dropping their gear ratio, but never thought you actually had a 2.73 unit to use. Wow. Might be the key.....look into that.
Dude. I'm thinkin a set of 2.73s would be your best friend the way the power is coming on....may almost make it drivable below 100 MPH....?
I see lots of big power turbo cars dropping their gear ratio, but never thought you actually had a 2.73 unit to use. Wow. Might be the key.....look into that.
I'm honesty debating this...
Oh, and lest I forget....
I owe Jamie a HUGE thanks for coming through for me on Friday afternoon.
I blew a tire on I95 and had no spare, cause thats how I roll.....duh.
Called him up, and even though he had already left the shop, and was sick, and had spent the day dealing with his own rear end....he turned around, got me a wheel/tire, and had me back on the road less than a 1/2 hour from when I pulled over. Pimpin.
Thanks bro.
I owe Jamie a HUGE thanks for coming through for me on Friday afternoon.
I blew a tire on I95 and had no spare, cause thats how I roll.....duh.
Called him up, and even though he had already left the shop, and was sick, and had spent the day dealing with his own rear end....he turned around, got me a wheel/tire, and had me back on the road less than a 1/2 hour from when I pulled over. Pimpin.
Thanks bro.
Anytime hommie.... you know how I roll. Whatever,...whenever. it's all good. Ofcourse, I did hate you at that particular moment. I was cussing and screaming the whole way until I got there. lol. ******.
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To buy everything NEW?(which i didn't. Got my parts from friends and labor trades,...some where bought new though)
**** man, I dunno.
precision 67's(2)
tial wastegate (2) 44mm
tial 50mm bov (2)
AFR 205's
ARP studs
harland sharp rr's
fast 90 with burst panels
90 gm TB
plugs
taylor wires
coil reloacton packs
QTP front cover
TRAK cam
timing chain
ported oil pump
pushrods
dual springs and titanium retianers
racetronix fuel system and hotwire
nexuas gages(module/fuel/boost/pyro/controller)
Pro turbo kit
250 feet of header wrap
all coating to entire system
textralia exoskel
siemens 60pounders
fast fuel rails and numerous fittings
multiple GM gaskets(heads/front cover/coolant)
TnT nitrous system currently not hooked up but soon to be on the intercooler(with a bulit bottom end)
kevelar blanket
two chassis braces
Then there's the brace(DTE)....diff...wheels...suspension....body work.....
Hurst shifter
new seat foam and skins
then the kicker....
LABOR
I don't have any idea what it would cost. Anyone wanna guess?
next on list
fuel system
8 point
built bottom end
big brakes
built trans
built diff
axles
lighter seats
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i have to rely on AAA,4 x this year,
car is at the body shop,strange thing is they called me for some info and told me it was a commemerative z06? i said now way! the car is yellow.
anybody have a clue?
this f*cken four runner rental sucks ***.
i missed cruisen the coast with my car,went in the sts .just wasn't the same
i have the same to do list,took a job to do it
i have the 3;42 gear, i wonder about 2nd gear starts?
mike
car is at the body shop,strange thing is they called me for some info and told me it was a commemerative z06? i said now way! the car is yellow.
anybody have a clue?
this f*cken four runner rental sucks ***.
i missed cruisen the coast with my car,went in the sts .just wasn't the same
i have the same to do list,took a job to do it
i have the 3;42 gear, i wonder about 2nd gear starts?
mike
Don't like the second gear starts, cause I think it causes a serious load on the clutch.
"I" think...
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Thanks for info and recommendations. Hopefully, Jamie will post up what tire combo he goes with.
I have a coil overs myself from Pfadt set at (4) in the rear and (6) in the front.
Once I get it all back together I'll have Phoenix dial it all in for the street, since I live close by their shop and they do all of SCCA vettes.
I have a coil overs myself from Pfadt set at (4) in the rear and (6) in the front.
Once I get it all back together I'll have Phoenix dial it all in for the street, since I live close by their shop and they do all of SCCA vettes.
With pleasure man. I'm gonna bolt on my cousins wheels and tires this upcoming weekend, and see how it feels. He runs a fikse as well, with toyo R somethings. If those work at the speed I spun out on last week,...i'm more then interested....and considered sold on the product. I kinda already am since, his car (my cousins) has always blown off every tire in 1-4th at any speed on the highway as soon as you engage the gear,.....now, with the toyo's...he hooks right up through second. So,..I hope for good feedback on my car.
I can't wait till your car is done bro...it's gonna be a badass street machine.
Sounds like you got all figured out. I'm going to be running some form of CCW Wheels as I had a custom set made that didn't fit right and I've been waiting for a bunch of the stuff to get finished up on the car so that I can give them more accurate measurements so that they can fix me up with some wheels.
I'm going to go with PS2's for normal every day driving and then have a rear spare set for when i want to hammer it. I have to run at least 18" all the way around because of the 14" Wilwoods, plus I need some road clearance as my body is all composite material and if I hit something with the front, it's going break my whole front end.
I just caught your message about the vette show, oh well, maybe next time as I am down here every couple of months on business.
I'm going to go with PS2's for normal every day driving and then have a rear spare set for when i want to hammer it. I have to run at least 18" all the way around because of the 14" Wilwoods, plus I need some road clearance as my body is all composite material and if I hit something with the front, it's going break my whole front end.
I just caught your message about the vette show, oh well, maybe next time as I am down here every couple of months on business.
With pleasure man. I'm gonna bolt on my cousins wheels and tires this upcoming weekend, and see how it feels. He runs a fikse as well, with toyo R somethings. If those work at the speed I spun out on last week,...i'm more then interested....and considered sold on the product. I kinda already am since, his car (my cousins) has always blown off every tire in 1-4th at any speed on the highway as soon as you engage the gear,.....now, with the toyo's...he hooks right up through second. So,..I hope for good feedback on my car.
I can't wait till your car is done bro...it's gonna be a badass street machine.
I can't wait till your car is done bro...it's gonna be a badass street machine.
There was a post over in CF on this subject by SpeedyD aways back when he did a forged motor & turbo build using the APS system.
I think his parts bill was around $45K with him doing the labor.
He did coil overs, tranny, clutch, rear, fuel, turbo system, etc ....
Based on my own experience it gets up there quick + I did a lot of body work, interior changes + upgrades and converted from an auto to six speed. I'm approaching the six figure mark with me doing everything except painting and installing the body kit and that does not include the cost of the new engine or turbo system yet to come.
I'll need a fuel system, oil cooler and a few other odds and ends to wrap up this build.
I've been able to buy and sell a lot of parts that has helped control some of the cost, plus I've found a few good deals.
Very expensive hobby.
I think his parts bill was around $45K with him doing the labor.
He did coil overs, tranny, clutch, rear, fuel, turbo system, etc ....
Based on my own experience it gets up there quick + I did a lot of body work, interior changes + upgrades and converted from an auto to six speed. I'm approaching the six figure mark with me doing everything except painting and installing the body kit and that does not include the cost of the new engine or turbo system yet to come.
I'll need a fuel system, oil cooler and a few other odds and ends to wrap up this build.
I've been able to buy and sell a lot of parts that has helped control some of the cost, plus I've found a few good deals.
Very expensive hobby.
To buy everything NEW?(which i didn't. Got my parts from friends and labor trades,...some where bought new though)
**** man, I dunno.
precision 67's(2)
tial wastegate (2) 44mm
tial 50mm bov (2)
AFR 205's
ARP studs
harland sharp rr's
fast 90 with burst panels
90 gm TB
plugs
taylor wires
coil reloacton packs
QTP front cover
TRAK cam
timing chain
ported oil pump
pushrods
dual springs and titanium retianers
racetronix fuel system and hotwire
nexuas gages(module/fuel/boost/pyro/controller)
Pro turbo kit
250 feet of header wrap
all coating to entire system
textralia exoskel
siemens 60pounders
fast fuel rails and numerous fittings
multiple GM gaskets(heads/front cover/coolant)
TnT nitrous system currently not hooked up but soon to be on the intercooler(with a bulit bottom end)
kevelar blanket
two chassis braces
Then there's the brace(DTE)....diff...wheels...suspension....body work.....
Hurst shifter
new seat foam and skins
then the kicker....
LABOR
I don't have any idea what it would cost. Anyone wanna guess?
next on list
fuel system
8 point
built bottom end
big brakes
built trans
built diff
axles
lighter seats
**** man, I dunno.
precision 67's(2)
tial wastegate (2) 44mm
tial 50mm bov (2)
AFR 205's
ARP studs
harland sharp rr's
fast 90 with burst panels
90 gm TB
plugs
taylor wires
coil reloacton packs
QTP front cover
TRAK cam
timing chain
ported oil pump
pushrods
dual springs and titanium retianers
racetronix fuel system and hotwire
nexuas gages(module/fuel/boost/pyro/controller)
Pro turbo kit
250 feet of header wrap
all coating to entire system
textralia exoskel
siemens 60pounders
fast fuel rails and numerous fittings
multiple GM gaskets(heads/front cover/coolant)
TnT nitrous system currently not hooked up but soon to be on the intercooler(with a bulit bottom end)
kevelar blanket
two chassis braces
Then there's the brace(DTE)....diff...wheels...suspension....body work.....
Hurst shifter
new seat foam and skins
then the kicker....
LABOR
I don't have any idea what it would cost. Anyone wanna guess?
next on list
fuel system
8 point
built bottom end
big brakes
built trans
built diff
axles
lighter seats
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Man, let me tell you, this car will not need brake boosting. Thats for ricers that cant spool their ****....lol.
This car is in boost all the time under load, so thats not a concern.
The tremendous lack of traction however, is a serious concern.
I'd say though, if he tried to break boost in 3rd he'd likely need 4 lanes to reign it in....
This car is in boost all the time under load, so thats not a concern.
The tremendous lack of traction however, is a serious concern.
I'd say though, if he tried to break boost in 3rd he'd likely need 4 lanes to reign it in....
So V-series-----safe to say 20k easily??? Labor included.
Lol, he may have to wait till he fully diagnoses his latest driveline damages to give you an up to date cost assessment....780 @ the wheels is a BITCH!
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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport
Seriously? seriously?
Dude. I'm thinkin a set of 2.73s would be your best friend the way the power is coming on....may almost make it drivable below 100 MPH....?
I see lots of big power turbo cars dropping their gear ratio, but never thought you actually had a 2.73 unit to use. Wow. Might be the key.....look into that
I would have to agree with the above..
I know the cars aren't really comparable but my old c4 with a 434 Donavon/ T trim with a 300 shot
loved a 308 gear with a 28" tire, stock suspension
Car ran a best of 9.38 @156 on old dot m/h racemasters and that was just hitting the spray in third 9.87 @ 142 on just blower
Seriously? seriously?
Dude. I'm thinkin a set of 2.73s would be your best friend the way the power is coming on....may almost make it drivable below 100 MPH....?
I see lots of big power turbo cars dropping their gear ratio, but never thought you actually had a 2.73 unit to use. Wow. Might be the key.....look into that
I would have to agree with the above..
I know the cars aren't really comparable but my old c4 with a 434 Donavon/ T trim with a 300 shot
loved a 308 gear with a 28" tire, stock suspension
Car ran a best of 9.38 @156 on old dot m/h racemasters and that was just hitting the spray in third 9.87 @ 142 on just blower
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I seem to remember pushing the car the other night by hand(as it idled perfectly).
Carnage is good for The Soul.
Here's another view from dyno night:
http://www.frequencyequalsbass.com/d...short_dyno.mp4
Carnage is good for The Soul.
Here's another view from dyno night:
http://www.frequencyequalsbass.com/d...short_dyno.mp4
No biggie. I'd guess it will be back out tomorrow night for some high speed testing, anyone wanna go 215?