BlackNiteWS6

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You can say the same for the camaro...its only been out 2 years. Look how fast the f-body got from '93 to '02. The LT1 Z28 ran low 14's the '02 Z28 ran low 13's to 12.9's bone stock. You dont think GM will improve the camaro??? Guess again. GM will always make the car faster, stop better, and handle better. Its all relavent.

BlackNiteWS6

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Bottom line is you got your mind made up and so do i. I dont care what ford does.
And i'm working on is saving to mod my stock SS. Its gonna be full weight but my goal is
11.6's with a EPS 222/226 114lsa cam and ported 243's and a stall with all the normal bolt ons. Since it weighs less than a WS6 i will meet my goal or beat it, time will tell.
Then i'm going GT hunting...LOL

ludicrist2500hd

Sorry the 8 second 2011 Mustang i jokingly referred to in an earlier post has a Forged "stock displacement" bottom end. Yes, i need to learn how to read hahahaha. On a brighter note my friend's 5th gen just went 10.58 @134 with a REAL stock bottm end (this past friday)..

here's a link to the vid if anyone wants to see it. Stock trans, converter, gears.. HC, LT's, D1 Procharger on a 20" Nitto
http://www.youtube.com/user/Boostinb.../1/G8QsRhVvpUM

BlackNiteWS6

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To be fair i only got pissed when FLY said all 5th gens suck. So i jumped all over that statement. It's far from the truth just cause its heavy. Thats what
got me fired up. Its a stupid statement without having facts to back the statement, especially since he never drove one. Thats pretty much it. And you know nothing about my old WS6. I didn't set it up as a gutted out race car with no options or AC. I was full weight. And on stock gears and rear. But its your opinion though.

BlackNiteWS6

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Damn on stock converter? and the 20's too? NICE!! 10.5's in a heavy car is
awesome. Congrats to him for sure.

BlackNiteWS6

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Yeah right sure it did. Show us a vid. or a time slip. And post what mods the car REALLY has.

fly pantera

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man im dishonest person all i do is lye
he has the timeslip also but i cant copy n paste it

Our customer Joe went to MIR and ripped off an 11.19 @ 122mph w/ a 1.54 60ft!! The car has run in the .30's and high .20's but got it done. More to come with this ride soon enough. I think the car might have 200miles on it if that.
Mods:

Stock Engine top to bottom
Kooks 1 3/4" long tubes w/ off road x-pipe.
Stock over the axles pipes with Bassani Axle Back
JLT Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake Of Course
JPC Custom Tuning
McLeod RXT w/Aluminum Flywheel
JPC Clutch Line Upgrade
Dynotech Driveshaft
4.88 Gears w/ Spool and Axles
Strange Front Adjustable Struts
Strange Rear Adjustable Shocks
Eibach Drag Launch Kit
Metco Lowers w/ ICMs
JPC Custom Upper Adjustable Control Arm Set Up
Strange Race Brakes

fly pantera

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man we sure messed up this guys thread,well i did,its not relavent cause we are talking about the (new 5.0 and 5th gen/ls3/l99)of course it got faster with a totally different motor.of course gm will improve and so will all other auto companies

fly pantera

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i said all the 5th gens blow @ the track i go to which is sar.and when comparing stock to stock,bolton to bolton guess what they suck.5.0 owns them.i guess if i drove on itl run mid to low 11s with boltons and trap higher than 115.i showed you all the facts even pulled the fastest list from camaro 5 what more do u want.

BlackNiteWS6

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It trapped 122mph with no motor mods? Yeak ok But to make you happy THIS YEAR 5.0 has the win.
BUT GM has the win every year from 1993 to 2009. Ok? Got it? So GM for the win for
17 years. And its gay to compare stock GM cars like the Vette or whatever to a modded, or bolt on rustang. You still haven't proved a time slip for that 11.1 roach.
So until you do its all BS...As i said before go troll the ford sites and talk dumb **** on their site. What do we all want? Easy get your *** a 5.0 and run mid 11.5's with bolt ons and post up YOUR time slip and we'll believe you. Plus a low to mid 11 second car would trap faster than 115. So you're all bullshit. So put up or shut up. There's no GT with a few bolt ons going from 13.2's to 11.5's PERIOD. And you know it. But bolt on vs. bolt on the camaro and GT run the same times. Thats 1 true comparo. Stock vs stock is a true comparo and both run similar times. Enough said on this subject. I'm unsubscribing to it. Nothing more to learn on this thread. Its a dead subject. Both cars are nice. Only you keep acting like a bitch saying the camaro blows. Fine it blows, now go away troll.

P.S. Just to be fair i checked out a mustang site and the Roush blower GT ran 11.25 which excellent. So NO WAY r u gonna run a low 11's with bolt ons and no motor mods. The blower GT went 125mph so that 11.1 car at 112 mph is BS. There's more to the car then whats been told.
So get real.

fly pantera

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its clear blacknite that you dont know what it takes to run impressive numbers with a given setup.

a full bolton 5.0 will make anywhere from 405-420rwhp.maybe i should flip it and say a 420rwhp ta (cam only) that weighs 3400lbs trapped a 122,i know you will believe that,but if i say a 420rwhp 5.0 (bolt on) that weighs 3400 trapped a 122,you will say no way that is bullshit.keep thinking that way

i could care less which car is faster mustang,camaro,challanger,i dont care i like all kinds of cars,2doors,4doors,i dont care as long as the car performs well.im just trying to make you a more open minded person but you dont see the light.

camaro won from 93-02,then cobras from 03-10,now 5.0 from 10-11,so that makes it camaro 10years,mustang 9 years.

i wasnt comparing stock vettes i was comparing full bolt on zo6 to full bolton 5.0,that vette list is not stock vettes,its full bolton vettes with slick,skinnies,etc

im not a troll on either sites,i own a cobra and have had 3 ls1,read my sig.
if i had money to spend i would buy a new 5.0 auto and i can guarantee you that it would run atleast 11.5 at over 116.

lmao you could run mid 11s all day trapping 115,all it takes is low to mid 1.5 sixty foots.

are you serious,the orinal thread starters friend ran 12.3@114 with intake,tune only.if you put drag wheels with drag radials,gears and a stall this car would run mid 11s easy cutting 1.60',and would also pick up mph cause of less rotating mass.

theres lots for you to learn blacknite,just wait till a stalled,geared,bolton,drag wheels runs your h/c ta.........then maybe you will believe me,but you will probably start crying and saying he has spray,i know he does,they dont run mid 11s.

5th gens only blows in stock and bolton form,then past that money makes everything fast.

sorry i ruined your thread tony,i just dont know why people still think stock to stock and bolton to bolton its a even match.stock to stock is close but bolton to bolton is not,hell the quickest cam only 5th gen is still slower in et and mph than the fastest bolton 5.0

TonyGXP

please dont sweat it, we're all "e" friend's here hahahaha..

I am excited to see the mustangs being able to compete again without HAVING to have a power adder in a stock configuration. I sometimes wish i wasn't so blindly loyal and could get on the 5.0 bandwagon but my family would disown me can't wait for the chevy v ford shootouts in stock froms now.. we should have them at atco/e town between the two websites stock v stock, auto v auto, mod for mod, etc. would be alot of fun

BlackNiteWS6

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True its everyones god given right to express their opinion. Its all good. And it shows
that we are all car guys. And feel strong about it.
FLY,
I dont know what it takes to go fast? LOL..Ok what ever you say. I only ran 10.9's
with a small H/C setup and a 125 wet shot. And that 10 second run was only a shake down run. I tuned my PCM to run rich and pulled 8 degrees of timing just to get a baseline. But since i didn't have a cage Atco kicked me out until i got on..lol. But i refined my tuning for the N2O, but never got updated times. But i know it ran better. And i ran that time on a crappy 1.71 60'. I pulled so much timing the car bogged out of the hole. Thats racing i guess. So you don't have any room to say that i dont know how to go fast. If i gutted my WS6, and pulled the seats out, and ran skinnied instead of my heavy stock 2002 rim/tires. ANd if i had drag shocks and a racing suspension i could have went 11.5's or faster for sure. But i chose to keep my interior stock and keep my stock suspension and front rims. And with bigger heads, cam and a bigger stall and gears,
low 11's would be a given. And no bolt GT is making 420rwhp. Fords is well known to over rate their HP numbers. But like you said i can see a cam with bolt ons could make closde to 420rwhp. Maybe. I went on a few mustang sites last night and the GT's are running similar times as the camaro with the same mods. They are both nice cars. I actually like the 5.0 motor. ANd i really love the 2008 Shelby GT500KR stang with the silver paint with the blue stripes. THAT is an awesome car. But it had a $88,000 sticker price. You can get a C6 ZO6 for almost $8,000 less, but still that mustang is bad ***. I wouldn't cry cause i know with my future mods i'll out run the GT. No worries here. I dont own a new camaro so until i do i dont car what it runs with or without mods. But you have a lot to learn about the new SS. There's plenty of them running low 11's with cam, bolt ons and a retune. Just use the search button here and find out yourself. But you dont want the facts you just want to pimp the new GT...fine good for your. Though in the real world the SS in running low 12's with only bolt ons and 11's, 10's, 9's and even 8's with the right mods. So you dont want to know the true but it's a fact. Even look at YouTube and see what vendors are running with their mods. You dont want the facts. Do you have a GT btw? No right? Have you even driven one? No right? So until you get one and mod it yourself and go race some camaro SS's and post your results. Your just all mouth with nothing to back it up except what you read. Unless you see what mods a car has you dont know for a fact what is done to a car. And you want us to believe a 13 second GT knocked off almost 2 seconds with just a CAI and tuning?LOL you are naive. or your're a young guy that doesn't have alot of experience.

BlackNiteWS6

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LOL i know what you mean about being brand loyal. My friends would hate me.
Family dont care if i drive a Yugo..lol. I like the idea of a shootout at Atco.
That would be sweet.

fly pantera

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theres plenty on 5.0 making 410-430rwhp,i added links just in case you want to learn,but you still probly wont believe there #s cause you cant see there mods,there probly all lying to us,damn ford guys always lying.anyways please link me to thes sub 11.3 cam only+bolton 5thgens,i used the search function and got nothing,even went through the 2 pages in the drag racing section,nothing,so now im going to youtube.

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Tune-Results?

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-on-JLT-s-5.0?

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...t-Dyno-Numbers

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Dyno-Tomorrow

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...amp-Dyno-Sheet

fly pantera

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i only know of orangechevyII that ran a 11.3@121,so show me others since theres PLENTY of others out there as you stated

LivernoisMotorsports

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Our auto 5.0 with 3.15 gears and 85 miles on the odometer went 13.1 @ 107 stock and 12.7 @ 111 with just a tune in 80 degree heat.

With headers, mid-pipe, catback and drag radials, still with stock airbox it went 12.0 @ 116.

We then added a 4.10 gear and aluminum driveshaft and skinnies and it went 11.61 @ 118 mph.

It's in the 10's now N/A at full weight minus the spare tire and jack and drag radials/skinnies.

Stang Vs. Z

Just for comparison, our 5.0 is 3,680 with me in it. The last Camaro I had on the same scale was 4,160 with me in it. Big weight difference.

-Rick

fly pantera

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very nice livernois,imagine what i could have done with cai,losing 100lbs and a little better 60',easy 11.3s with boltons traping very close to 120.

ohioborn80

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVexXKJvQ_E

mine 12.12 bone stock minus slicks