Can I drop another .3 tenths?

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Wanting any info to see if I can drop another .3 in the 1/4 to get to 10.99 sec pass. My mph is all over the place when I cross the lights, sometimes I run around 122 to 123 then others I run around 114 to 116 but my times stay the same right at 11.2 so I am wondering if I could get some advice from the experts if I am doing anything wrong or need to change anything. Oh and my 60' are always in the 1.51 to 1.53 range
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stage 4 built 4l60e with Yank SS 4000 stall
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I know I need different shocks but for now I have Koni SA all corners on Strano springs
CM adj. control arm, panhard bar and full length torque arm with reloc. bracket, right now I am using the top hole and I have goten my best 60' in that hole with a 1.51
I am not making alot of power at all, it only dynos around 390. Hopefully this is enough info but I probably left something out
This is my pass from last night and went 11.2@114 with a 1.51 60'
Another view of pass above
This is my pass from a few weeks ago with a 11.2@120 with a 1.6 60'

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Whats ur race weight? Like i said in your other post, Im right there with You as far as times and mph but im making a lil bit more hp than u but Im also at 367X race weight. Only other difference is im using 4.10's and 27" tire. As far as your suspension, Your 60' is pretty decent, and if ur dead hooking then ur suspensions pretty dialed in. Looks to be make more power or lose some more weight in the car to go faster.
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Originally Posted by z28241
Whats ur race weight? Like i said in your other post, Im right there with You as far as times and mph but im making a lil bit more hp than u but Im also at 367X race weight. Only other difference is im using 4.10's and 27" tire. As far as your suspension, Your 60' is pretty decent, and if ur dead hooking then ur suspensions pretty dialed in. Looks to be make more power or lose some more weight in the car to go faster.
Yea after I posted this I ran an 11.1@115 with a 1.4 60' so I am hooking really good, I since then just installed a Kirkey race pro seat, Grant quick release hub and grant steering wheel with a micro switch for my line lock, helped me drop close to 40lbs, as far as weight I haven't put it on a scale but I have done some extensive weight reduction.
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Well keep at it, your making some good passes at 390 hp, whats the DA your making these passes in?
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Originally Posted by z28241
Well keep at it, your making some good passes at 390 hp, whats the DA your making these passes in?
I didn't check it when I ran my 11.1 but on the 11.2 runs I think it was around 1900, I am just trying to prove a point to some people that think you need gobs of power to runs these numbers but I am doing it with less than 400hp and knocking on 10's door
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Hellz Yeah Man!! Lots of feelings get hurt! Lots of people showing up with big money/HP cars and cant get them down the track, alot has to do with set up or seat time but we're getting it done!
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heres my pass
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Originally Posted by z28241
here's my pass
That was a nice pass
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Didn't know you were on here.....P.S. when you ran that 11.1 the DA was around 1500
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If you do NOT have a (Chris1313 Ram Air), get one from Speedink. I think your mph is off because you are lifting too soon. With that SS4000 try stalling the crap out of it on the launch, stand on the brake as hard as you can and stall it real high just before it starts to move. Chris has been 1.27 60 ft. with a SS4000. Good Luck!!!
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Originally Posted by EZZZE
Didn't know you were on here.....P.S. when you ran that 11.1 the DA was around 1500
Thanks Jim

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If you do NOT have a (Chris1313 Ram Air), get one from Speedink. I think your mph is off because you are lifting too soon. With that SS4000 try stalling the crap out of it on the launch, stand on the brake as hard as you can and stall it real high just before it starts to move. Chris has been 1.27 60 ft. with a SS4000. Good Luck!!!
Yes I have a Chris1313 ram air, I will try that next time I go to the track, thanks
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I know you have to be happy with the way the car is performing. You will have your 10 second time slip once you get some good air and cooler temperatures. What is your race weight? Is your best 60 foot 1.40 or 1.4's?

Not trying to compare our cars or take away from what you have done to yours but maybe this will help. My car is right at 400 HP to the wheels and when it set at 3,370 lbs it ran it best NA quarter mile time on 26 inch tires in the sig below. That was with a +800 DA. So if you race weight is above mine that could be some of the differences in ET between the two cars. I really think it has to do with the way your car is leaving the line. It appears to me the car is not transferring weight very well. With that being said that could explain the MPH differences if you are getting tire spin throughout your run. As suggested by others stalling higher on the foot brake could help plant the tires harder and provide more weight transfer to help the car 60 foot better or if your suspension is having problems will create wheel spin straight off the line. That will tell the story.

The way I see it you could try a few things.

1. Weight reduction - as you already stated you have taken 40 lbs. out of the car.
2. Gear change - 3.73’s to 4.11’s will reduce ET but could cause more tire spin and show the suspension issues quicker.
3. Better tires - switch to a true bias type tire with a softer sidewall and better traction.
4. Weight transfer - figure out what else you need to do to get the weight off the front tires and onto the back tires.

I hope this helps and as already stated your car is running very well. I look forward to see you get that 10 second run very soon when you get some good air.

Good luck!!!

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Originally Posted by N2RACINGLS1's
I know you have to be happy with the way the car is performing. You will have your 10 second time slip once you get some good air and cooler temperatures. What is your race weight? Is your best 60 foot 1.40 or 1.4's?

Not trying to compare our cars or take away from what you have done to yours but maybe this will help. My car is right at 400 HP to the wheels and when it set at 3,370 lbs it ran it best NA quarter mile time on 26 inch tires in the sig below. That was with a +800 DA. So if you race weight is above mine that could be some of the differences in ET between the two cars. I really think it has to do with the way your car is leaving the line. It appears to me the car is not transferring weight very well. With that being said that could explain the MPH differences if you are getting tire spin throughout your run. As suggested by others stalling higher on the foot brake could help plant the tires harder and provide more weight transfer to help the car 60 foot better or if your suspension is having problems will create wheel spin straight off the line. That will tell the story.

The way I see it you could try a few things.

1. Weight reduction - as you already stated you have taken 40 lbs. out of the car.
2. Gear change - 3.73’s to 4.11’s will reduce ET but could cause more tire spin and show the suspension issues quicker.
3. Better tires - switch to a true bias type tire with a softer sidewall and better traction.
4. Weight transfer - figure out what else you need to do to get the weight off the front tires and onto the back tires.

I hope this helps and as already stated your car is running very well. I look forward to see you get that 10 second run very soon when you get some good air.

Good luck!!!

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Jim said the DA was 1500 on the night I ran my 11.1 pass so I am hoping for a cooler night. As for my susp. I know I need to change it out to some QA1's or AFCO's but for now I have Koni SA shocks with Strano springs so I think my 60' time is good for what set-up I currently have. I have a BMR torque arm relocation bracket and I have been making alot of adjustments on the front for weight transfer, I moved it to the top hole and that has netted me the best 60' to date of a 1.45, on any other hole I was running at 1.6-1.7. Tires I am running a 275 or I think they are 26 equivalent but I do plan on stepping up to drag slicks with tubes down the road. As for weight I think I am right around what you are and I plan on doing even more weight reduction, A/C box removal, power steering removal, abs delete, EWP, pin-on hood, MWC front and rear windows, MWC bumper supports, full Spohn CM tubular adj. front susp. QA1 DA shocks all corners with 275lb springs for front, pass. air bag removal, cowl delete, and of course the big kicker I plan on pulling out the 346 and putting in an LS3 427 N/A, want to hit 9.99 all motor. I am probably forgetting something but those are my future plans when I come back from my deployment. Thanks for all the advice.
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Wow you’ve gone from wanting to drop 3 tenths to over 1 second! Sounds like you got a good plan laid out so far.

I am hoping to drop down a little more from 10.47 after completing some changes I am working on currently. I want to see what this little 346 CI will do.

Good luck and be safe on your deployment.

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Originally Posted by chewy99ws6
I didn't check it when I ran my 11.1 but on the 11.2 runs I think it was around 1900, I am just trying to prove a point to some people that think you need gobs of power to runs these numbers but I am doing it with less than 400hp and knocking on 10's door
Who says you need 400+ hp to run 10's
I probably have the lowest hp on the cam-only list
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Who says you need 400+ hp to run 10's
I probably have the lowest hp on the cam-only list
That's what I keep telling people, I am only running 390HP and so far my best pass to date was an 11.02@119 last friday. I am very close to hitting 10's right now, changing the rear shocks out for some comp 3-ways to see if that helps


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