New fastest SI car in the country?
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the advantage is thus....they don't want to admit that anyone could ever go as quick as they did SI so they put stipulations on things to outlaw other people's times. the bottom line is that sux's car is movin pretty good, and it's daily driven. i didn't hear anyone raising hell about guys pulling heads to modify stock pistons in "cam only" cars....where's the beef?
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stipulations??
All these rules were set into place before I ran my #'s.. This is nothing new here. I knew what I could not do and what I could do BEFORE I ever ran my #'s stock internals. These are not things that were discussed AFTER the fact. It was well before so your statement is very much false.
As far as modifying stock pistons.. to what extent.. beyond fly cutting?
Just in case you don't know, the 2 record holders for cam only cars also have never had their head removed..
There's your beef.
All these rules were set into place before I ran my #'s.. This is nothing new here. I knew what I could not do and what I could do BEFORE I ever ran my #'s stock internals. These are not things that were discussed AFTER the fact. It was well before so your statement is very much false.
As far as modifying stock pistons.. to what extent.. beyond fly cutting?
Just in case you don't know, the 2 record holders for cam only cars also have never had their head removed..
There's your beef.
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
the advantage is thus....they don't want to admit that anyone could ever go as quick as they did SI so they put stipulations on things to outlaw other people's times. the bottom line is that sux's car is movin pretty good, and it's daily driven. i didn't hear anyone raising hell about guys pulling heads to modify stock pistons in "cam only" cars....where's the beef?
Stock internal means STOCK INTERNAL PERIOD
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
sounds like bain is jealous of anyone that is faster than him to me...just my .02
Who the F**k are you??? I'm not jealous just trying to keep the list honest
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so he's honest about his car, what about those cam only cars that lie about it and don't have stock heads, or those stock internal cars that have a bottle on them, or ls6 cam and heads or something. those guys are on the list with no talk....oh well, it's all good. sux has a very quick car and that's obvious.
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
so he's honest about his car, what about those cam only cars that lie about it and don't have stock heads, or those stock internal cars that have a bottle on them, or ls6 cam and heads or something. those guys are on the list with no talk....oh well, it's all good. sux has a very quick car and that's obvious.
well im glad he's honest about his car. Thats great and I give him props for saying what he has when some dont. But this still doesnt give in to the fact that SI is SI. The motor has never internally been touched
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S=stock ARP= not stock parts regardless if helps performance
I wouldnt put better springs and bolts in my motor and say I was stock internal, but thats just me and the way i believe SI should be lol
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I like the fact that no one has touched on what I said in my last post. Oil, even if it's small amounts ie: vapor or minute droplets, touches the intake and TB by means of the PCV system. So that would rule out any intake mods, even a ported TB.
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Silver, i see what you are saying, but its common sense that a friggin TB and intake arent internal parts lol
i dont think rod bolts would help the guy... but its the simple fact that they are not STOCK bolts and stock springs INSIDE the motor or UNDER the valve covers.
im to slow to compete in any SI list now since 11.9's that use to be fast and now slow and not even worth mentioning LMAO.
I doubt its anyone that doesnt like the guy cause he's fast.. its just that we consider SI is STOCK INTERNALS... not aftermarket bolts and springs regardless if they help or not
i dont think rod bolts would help the guy... but its the simple fact that they are not STOCK bolts and stock springs INSIDE the motor or UNDER the valve covers.
im to slow to compete in any SI list now since 11.9's that use to be fast and now slow and not even worth mentioning LMAO.
I doubt its anyone that doesnt like the guy cause he's fast.. its just that we consider SI is STOCK INTERNALS... not aftermarket bolts and springs regardless if they help or not
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Silver, i see what you are saying, but its common sense that a friggin TB and intake arent internal parts lol
i dont think rod bolts would help the guy... but its the simple fact that they are not STOCK bolts and stock springs INSIDE the motor or UNDER the valve covers.
im to slow to compete in any SI list now since 11.9's that use to be fast and now slow and not even worth mentioning LMAO.
I doubt its anyone that doesnt like the guy cause he's fast.. its just that we consider SI is STOCK INTERNALS... not aftermarket bolts and springs regardless if they help or not
i dont think rod bolts would help the guy... but its the simple fact that they are not STOCK bolts and stock springs INSIDE the motor or UNDER the valve covers.
im to slow to compete in any SI list now since 11.9's that use to be fast and now slow and not even worth mentioning LMAO.
I doubt its anyone that doesnt like the guy cause he's fast.. its just that we consider SI is STOCK INTERNALS... not aftermarket bolts and springs regardless if they help or not
Originally Posted by SUX2BU
I have stock LS1 springs that came on the stock 241 heads.
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Not to take anything away from Magnus or anyone else that holds and LSX record, but is there an "Official" team of people that went to Magnus' house after he broke the record to watch him tear down the motor? Did they check every bolt, and every nut to make sure they were all to factory spec? Is there any real way to make sure that the numbers on the #8 piston match the numbers on the block?
What about the cam only record holder? Did anyone require that motor to be torn down to confirm everything was within said rules?
Or did everyone take their word for it?
Unless any of this was done, there really isn't anything "Official" about it.
Hell, run ARP bolts, who's going to check you?
What about the cam only record holder? Did anyone require that motor to be torn down to confirm everything was within said rules?
Or did everyone take their word for it?
Unless any of this was done, there really isn't anything "Official" about it.
Hell, run ARP bolts, who's going to check you?
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ARP bolts are not the problem, its that if you allow the bolts, what else can you allow??? Might as well rebuild entire engine with stock parts, but set all the clearances so that the engine has less frictional losses and in return makes more power.
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Originally Posted by bad2000ss
Not to take anything away from Magnus or anyone else that holds and LSX record, but is there an "Official" team of people that went to Magnus' house after he broke the record to watch him tear down the motor? Did they check every bolt, and every nut to make sure they were all to factory spec? Is there any real way to make sure that the numbers on the #8 piston match the numbers on the block?
What about the cam only record holder? Did anyone require that motor to be torn down to confirm everything was within said rules?
Or did everyone take their word for it?
Unless any of this was done, there really isn't anything "Official" about it.
Hell, run ARP bolts, who's going to check you?
What about the cam only record holder? Did anyone require that motor to be torn down to confirm everything was within said rules?
Or did everyone take their word for it?
Unless any of this was done, there really isn't anything "Official" about it.
Hell, run ARP bolts, who's going to check you?
THat was also the first time the vavle covers and oil pan were ever off the car.
I wouldn't have replaced ARP bolts with ARP bolts.
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mangus' car isn't the stock internals record holder, or the cam only record, his car came with a V6 in it, so it's not stock internals to have an LS1 in it. therefore his "records" are non-existant.
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
mangus' car isn't the stock internals record holder, or the cam only record, his car came with a V6 in it, so it's not stock internals to have an LS1 in it. therefore his "records" are non-existant.