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Old 10-12-2006, 08:09 PM
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my daily driving drs are 18x10 z06 motorsport wheels bfgs g-force 295/35/18

on the 16" draglites i have 255/55/16 M/T DRs....this is what i ran the time w/

and my 15" draglites have 26/9.5/15 ET Streets

w/ out me it weighs 3060. i weigh 140.

-brandon
Old 10-13-2006, 11:48 AM
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What were you shifting at?
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Originally Posted by Demonicbird00
you should get mid 11s w/ the bigger stall what gears do you have?

-brandon
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:45 PM
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4.10s

shifting at 6800

stock bottom end and stock rod bolts. pulled it out to 7300 on the dyno

-brandon
Old 10-21-2006, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonicbird00
4.10s

shifting at 6800

stock bottom end and stock rod bolts. pulled it out to 7300 on the dyno

-brandon
Brave man, I get nervous when I get mine over 6800. I only pulled it to 6700 on the dyno. The HP started to nose over at about 6500 so there was no need to go higher.
Old 10-23-2006, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BADSZ28
Nice Work Demon. Amazing ET for the trap. I need to get some of your shifting skills. I too am in the works of getting on the cam only list. Ignore Rubadubdub. He is obviosly ignorant. Picking up a .5 with a cam swap is great. Especially that size. I wish I had the ***** to make my car light.
He picked up 2 tenths from the improvement in 60'. The other 3 tenths came with the 3 MPH.

Car's 240 lbs lighter than when it was running 117-118 SI, 60's better and makes 75 more HP. Yet only picked up 3 MPH. The additional weight reduction alone should be good for at least 2 MPH. Don't tell me the DA ate up the other 5-6 mph.

So who's ignorant?

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Originally Posted by OhIt'sBeenBraughten
He picked up 2 tenths from the improvement in 60'. The other 3 tenths came with the 3 MPH.

Car's 240 lbs lighter than when it was running 117-118 SI, 60's better and makes 75 more HP. Yet only picked up 3 MPH. The additional weight reduction alone should be good for at least 2 MPH. Don't tell me the DA ate up the other 5-6 mph.

So who's ignorant?
WTF are you talking about 2 tenths from the 60'? He went from 1.59 to 1.55, that is maybe a .1 in the qtr, maybe. A delta of 1000ft is arround 0.2 at his level so yeah it can eat up quite a bit. Just because you gained 75hp does not mean you will drop 0.75. The faster you go the more power you need to go faster. 240lbs will drop him .2 yes but MPH will not be as great. The better 1/8th ET you get the slower your mph will be in 1/4 because you will be getting there faster. That is why auto cars trap slower than M6 cars with the same ET. The car is hooking so we are not looking at mph at this point. Had the car spun or come out of the hole weak, then trap would be a good indicator. His car trapped crazy SI so we really can't look at that. We want to look at ET. There is a solid .5 improvement here. The weight loss is cancelled out by the delta in DA so there you go. If he shifts at 7k I can see an 11.00 in negative DA.
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Originally Posted by OhIt'sBeenBraughten
He picked up 2 tenths from the improvement in 60'. The other 3 tenths came with the 3 MPH.

Car's 240 lbs lighter than when it was running 117-118 SI, 60's better and makes 75 more HP. Yet only picked up 3 MPH. The additional weight reduction alone should be good for at least 2 MPH. Don't tell me the DA ate up the other 5-6 mph.

So who's ignorant?
This is coming from someone that has been banned and had to change his name. Must be full of useful knowledge. Well now that you are learned on how to analyze a time slip you are no longer ignorant...well at least in that area.
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i was on a stock tq arm when i went 1.59 SI then by going to an adj tubular t/a i got down to a 1.53. im still not dumping it from 5k+ im doing a lil slip then letting it go.

my tranny is holding me back now, its bone stock and has 200+ passes on it. its getting harder to shift and to boot im not power shifting either. im gonna be getting a built tranny soon and when i do ill go 11.00 then ill need to get a tubular k-member and a-arms thats another 45lbs off the nose.

not to mention once i get some good air ill be in the 122mph range

-brandon

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We so need to run but too bad you are in Jersey! We run the same times right now! I like a good race every now and then!! Sweet Car!!
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thanks same to you. i would like to get out to tx one day w/ my car, you all get some really good air during the winter time.

it would def be a fun race win or lose.

-brandon
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Nice times!
Old 10-24-2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonicbird00
as of now yeah,
i went from mid 1.6 60s to mid/low 1.5s plus in better air ill get more mph out of it also.
Here ya go BADS. At least a tenth in 60', said so himself.

What delta in DA genious? You so smart then use the search function and see for yourself.

And his car always ran TOO good SI. Look at his dyno graph when it was SI, ever see anything like that? NO

118 MPH weighing 3440 SI? OK. And only 120 with 75 more RWHP and 240 lbs lighter. Makes sense.

Never said he should have dropped .75 in ET, you did. I said he should have gained alot more than 2 MPH. Ohhh we can't look at the difference in his trap speed SI to Cam only. WHY? Best indicator of power and it's not like the car didn't hook when it was SI.

Yup I got banned many a time, for calling BS on things that are infact BS. So what. Doin it right now.

Stock LS1 clutch with 87K miles cutting 1.53 60's. Sounds as plausible as a 3440 lb SI 2000 car running 118 MPH. And that's without powershifting. You so smart BADS then tell me how much you pick up when you powershift. The car should have ran 119+ if he powershifted. Still sound like this car's for real? Out MPHed Z06s even though it made less power and weighed at least 100 lbs more.

And by the way, M6 cars out MPH A4 cars cause they put 20-30 more horses to the ground. Reason why A4 cars out ET M6 cars is due to the TQ multiplication provided by the torque converter. Hope that clears things up for you a bit..

So WTF were you talking about? Oh that's right, you went around calling me ignorant when you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Oh and your FULL WEIGHT car weighs how much? 3500+. How much is the plus? Last I checked my full weight car (stock wheels, jack/spare, sway bars and every thing that it came with) weighed 3420 with a 1/4 tank. Weighs 3610 with me in it. That's full weight.
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We can do this all day, week, whatever...
I see your reason for your original post now. You are claiming the car was not SI originally? OK, I understand now. No idea why the car trapped so high SI, but the ET with the 60' he had don't lie. 11.81 with 1.59 60' was his SI record. I am pretty sure his car was 3340 or something though not the 3440 you claim but I would have to double check. I can believe this since my car FULL WEIGHT ran 12.18 @ 113 SI with stock manifolds and Y. So then with the cam he ran 1.55 60' to a 11.29. Easy .5 gain. You said he gained .2 in the Qtr from that 60' diff. Not gunna happen. Reread your own posts.

Sure autos loose more power over M6s, but even if an M6 runs a better 1/8th ET the MPH will not be as high as with a slower 1/8th ET in the same car. There are M6 cars trapping 120 that run anywhere from 11.20s to 11.60s. It all has to do with the 60' and 1/8. I thought he ran the 11.81 at higher DA. I will have to research that. I called you out because you drop a couple words with nothing to back up your statement. That to me shows ignorance. I respect your comeback, though delayed, and glad to hear you are changing your banned ways.

The car from the factory weighed 3500 with me in it minus jack and spare. No other weight reduction. Then I got out and it was 3300. No idea why it is so light. Maybe the scale was wrong. All I know is I have pulled no more weight from the car and that to me is full weight. I have not had it on the scale since the 9", headers, ORY and other BOs. A 9" is heavier than a 10 bolt as are aftermarket LCAs, SFCs etc...So maybe my car is 3600+lbs. That is OK with me. Running 11.60 at 3600lbs makes me feel even better. If the car was 3000lbs that would put me at 11.00 in the same DA of around +1000ft.
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I'm not changing my banned ways, I'm calling BS (doin it right now) get it?

The car's running what it should be running, FINALLY. I'm sure if he wants to find those lost 5 mph, he can find it in the bottle where he left it.

There's no explanation that he can come up with for only gaining 2 mph in the same DA when he shed 240 lbs from the car and gained 75 RWHP. Oh wait, must be the 87K mile tranny or that 87K mile LS1 clutch.

I might be at Atco NOV 7, in case you fellas wanna feel a notchy tranny and a shitty clutch.
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He ran his SI numbers at 3260lbs and now is 3200 so where is the 240lbs coming from?
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this is from back in april i posted this on 5 different boards.......
Posted: Sat Apr 29th, 2006 12:22 am
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well i ran yesterday and today at atco.

3260 race weight ET Streets at 11 psi and minor spin, hope i can get my buddy to send me the vid.

no sure on DA but know the BAR was a lil over 30.0

here they are 11.81 was yesterday and the 11.83 was today

YESTERDAY
RT- .409
60'- 1.597
330- 4.872
1/8- 7.572
MPH- 87.85
1000- 9.884
1/4- 11.812
MPH- 117.63

TODAY
RT- .278
60'- 1.614
330- 4.901
1/8- 7.590
MPH- 88.18
1000- 9.898
1/4- 11.830
MPH- 117.16

my highest mph was a 118.08 i have many slips over the last 2 years where you can see my mph rise a lil as the time went down w/ learning the shifts,launch and car.

are you an idiot i said stock tranny. if you ever went to my web page i have a lingenfelter clutch rated to 700 tq and a spec alum. flywheel ive had them for a year and a half now.

best 60' SI was a 1.59 on et streets at 11psi in them. stock TQ ARM

best 60' cam only was 1.53 on MT DRs at 17 psi in them and a adj TQ ARM.

im lowered and have enhanced the areodynamics of the car. no wing,taped up front bumper and no mirrors now.

when i went 11.81 SI i was in neg DA close to 1000 when i went 11.2 cam only it was positive 630 or something close to that.

go look on the SI list im rite there in mph like the other m6 guys.

i know w/ better air ill be in the 122 range like i said earlier, i have plenty of witnesses on this board to attest to my car when it was SI and now being cam only.

dont be mad at me and calling BS cause you cant drive your own dam car thats a H/C setup to a good ET.

if i can get a tranny done and in the car by NOV 7th ill gladly show you up and run 10s w/ no bottle cam only and get on the cam only list.

why dont you ask questions or check my cardomain page before making rediculous posts.

-brandon
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He ran 11.946 at 118.08 MPH w/a 1.794 at 3440 lbs.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-members/402602-new-best-crappy-60-tho.html

My best so far is in sig at approx 3625 lbs (lap top, helmet, power inverter, LM1, 1/4 tank, misc crap) on a day when the DA was 800. Only able to powershift 1-2. Haven't dynoed the car but it should be 400 RWHP min based on weight and MPH.

Previous best was 12.87 at 111.3 with lid/filter/flowmaster CB on Eagle RSAs on a better DA day with similar weight as above. Powershifted every gear.

You gonna tell me that a 200 lb difference is gonna make up for cam and heads? No way.

Like I said before, look at his old SI dyno on his cardomain page. Where's the peak? That graph looks clipped. And when have you seen a stock cam and stock springs pull to 6700 RPM?
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whats wrong w/ my SI dyno sheet?? its not my fault my tuner knows how to tune a car.

-brandon
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I listed what's wrong with it. Stock cam and springs pulling cleanly to 6700? No HP peak, just a flat line for over 1000 RPM? Cmon guy.


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