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Dissapointed Well, let me be the first to say, I do the suck at launching. The poor 60' was due to bogging, not spinning.
I am still a bit sad. I know my ET would suck due to the POOR 60', but my mph looks a bit low too, no? Would a 2.36 bogging 60' kill mph as well as ET? I thought I should trap around 104-05. My car is a bone stock 2001 6-speed WS6. I had 3/4 tank of gas as well, noob move number 2, lol.
Is my car a dog, or did my bogging launch own my mph as well as my ET? (I figured my ET would suck the first time out, but I was hoping for a strong mph).
Here is the timeslip. I was on the right.
I am still a bit sad. I know my ET would suck due to the POOR 60', but my mph looks a bit low too, no? Would a 2.36 bogging 60' kill mph as well as ET? I thought I should trap around 104-05. My car is a bone stock 2001 6-speed WS6. I had 3/4 tank of gas as well, noob move number 2, lol.
Is my car a dog, or did my bogging launch own my mph as well as my ET? (I figured my ET would suck the first time out, but I was hoping for a strong mph).
Here is the timeslip. I was on the right.
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I dunno, maybe 100' elevation? Close to Sealevel.
Every race I have ever had though convinces me my car is "strong".
I was dead even with a guy who claimed 13.3@105 in his TA
I beat a Z4M
Every C5 I ever ran was a dead even race
I only lost by a few feet to a LT's, dumped thorugh a bullet,Lid Z28 when I had a passenger.
05+ GT's lose by 1-2cars from 60-100 and most of them trap 102-3.
All these are from a roll on the street though.
So was it the 2.361 bogging 60' with no spin that made my mph poopy?
Every race I have ever had though convinces me my car is "strong".
I was dead even with a guy who claimed 13.3@105 in his TA
I beat a Z4M
Every C5 I ever ran was a dead even race
I only lost by a few feet to a LT's, dumped thorugh a bullet,Lid Z28 when I had a passenger.
05+ GT's lose by 1-2cars from 60-100 and most of them trap 102-3.
All these are from a roll on the street though.
So was it the 2.361 bogging 60' with no spin that made my mph poopy?
I dunno, maybe 100' elevation? Close to Sealevel.
Every race I have ever had though convinces me my car is "strong".
I was dead even with a guy who claimed 13.3@105 in his TA
I beat a Z4M
Every C5 I ever ran was a dead even race
I only lost by a few feet to a LT's, dumped thorugh a bullet,Lid Z28 when I had a passenger.
05+ GT's lose by 1-2cars from 60-100 and most of them trap 102-3.
All these are from a roll on the street though.
So was it the 2.361 bogging 60' with no spin that made my mph poopy?
Every race I have ever had though convinces me my car is "strong".
I was dead even with a guy who claimed 13.3@105 in his TA
I beat a Z4M
Every C5 I ever ran was a dead even race
I only lost by a few feet to a LT's, dumped thorugh a bullet,Lid Z28 when I had a passenger.
05+ GT's lose by 1-2cars from 60-100 and most of them trap 102-3.
All these are from a roll on the street though.
So was it the 2.361 bogging 60' with no spin that made my mph poopy?
You really can't go off of a street race, too many veriables, plus some will milk there times, thats why going to the track sheads reality on what your/someone elses car really runs, you either get this
or this 
FWIW my car always mph's lower when I screw up my launch, whether it's a bog or spin. I's bet with a better launch, even if you're not launching it super hard, you'll see your mph go up a couple mph.
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I don't drag at all, but I wanted to get a benchmark. I know I suck at the strip, but even with nearly a full tank of gas I figured I would run better than 102.28 mph.
So you are saying a 2.36 60' bogging down to idle wouldnt cost me 2mph or so? I feel a stock 6-speed WS6 should trap 104 at least. I was granny shifting as well though. I just thought that I was a coupld mph slow b/c of the full tank of gas and the crappy launch. I gained 23mph from the 1/8th mile to the 1/4th mile, which is a lot meaner than most stock LS1's I see. I dunno, is there something wrong with my car other than the driver? Or am I the sole reason for the 102 instead of a 104?
Shifted at yellow 1-2 so as not to hit the limiter and then at redline into 3rd and left it there.
So you are saying a 2.36 60' bogging down to idle wouldnt cost me 2mph or so? I feel a stock 6-speed WS6 should trap 104 at least. I was granny shifting as well though. I just thought that I was a coupld mph slow b/c of the full tank of gas and the crappy launch. I gained 23mph from the 1/8th mile to the 1/4th mile, which is a lot meaner than most stock LS1's I see. I dunno, is there something wrong with my car other than the driver? Or am I the sole reason for the 102 instead of a 104?
Shifted at yellow 1-2 so as not to hit the limiter and then at redline into 3rd and left it there.
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My first time out with my 2002 Formula 2.73 A4 i ran a 14.06 @ 103
----was your clutch slipping?
---if not maybe need to launch at higher rpm then feather it out of the hole
betcha you could get it down to 2.0 60 ft
0.3 at 60 ft probably = 0.6 on the 1/4. Get that back at you are at 13.5, no barn burner but prolly normal for that car.
Where was the track? These cars run worse in humid hot conditions
----was your clutch slipping?
---if not maybe need to launch at higher rpm then feather it out of the hole
betcha you could get it down to 2.0 60 ft
0.3 at 60 ft probably = 0.6 on the 1/4. Get that back at you are at 13.5, no barn burner but prolly normal for that car.
Where was the track? These cars run worse in humid hot conditions
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My first time out with my 2002 Formula 2.73 A4 i ran a 14.06 @ 103
----was your clutch slipping?
---if not maybe need to launch at higher rpm then feather it out of the hole
betcha you could get it down to 2.0 60 ft
0.3 at 60 ft probably = 0.6 on the 1/4. Get that back at you are at 13.5, no barn burner but prolly normal for that car.
Where was the track? These cars run worse in humid hot conditions
----was your clutch slipping?
---if not maybe need to launch at higher rpm then feather it out of the hole
betcha you could get it down to 2.0 60 ft
0.3 at 60 ft probably = 0.6 on the 1/4. Get that back at you are at 13.5, no barn burner but prolly normal for that car.
Where was the track? These cars run worse in humid hot conditions
Shreveport, LA, it was around 80* out and a bit humid (I think 60-80%), but not bad. Elevation 193' SL
Clutch was a new LS6. I feathered it at 1500rpm and then kinda floored it while letting it out. It promptly hooked, bogged to 8-900rpm, and then I "was off". Could this crappy launching style have cost me 2mph?
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pending on the track prep u need to launch harder and you will be where u need to be which is mid to low 13's it is due mostly to ur poor 60' and bogging...it may bae just me but i would rather spin just a tad bit than bog my *** off...
3/4 a tank is a lot of extra weight to be dragging around.
Make sure all the little things are in order, like plugs, wires, and fuel filter. My wires were arching so bad when I first got mine, I got my *** handed to me by a stock '05 GT. I took a day to tune it up and picked up nicely.
Make sure all the little things are in order, like plugs, wires, and fuel filter. My wires were arching so bad when I first got mine, I got my *** handed to me by a stock '05 GT. I took a day to tune it up and picked up nicely.
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3/4 a tank is a lot of extra weight to be dragging around.
Make sure all the little things are in order, like plugs, wires, and fuel filter. My wires were arching so bad when I first got mine, I got my *** handed to me by a stock '05 GT. I took a day to tune it up and picked up nicely.
Make sure all the little things are in order, like plugs, wires, and fuel filter. My wires were arching so bad when I first got mine, I got my *** handed to me by a stock '05 GT. I took a day to tune it up and picked up nicely.
Did I miss something?
I am still sad over my 102.28mph trap. I ran a calculator and it said I should trap 103mph with 100# taken off my weight (which is about the amount of extra gas I had).
Either way, basically I am just asking, is a bogging 60' enough to knock off 1-2mph from a trap speed on an otherwise decent run? My 1/8mph was around 79mph on all my runs, none of which were better than a 2.300 with a horrid bog. Basically, would I be trapping 81-3 and 103-5 had I not bogged so bad but spun a little instead? That is the main gist. I know I suck at launching, I am just wondering if the math adds up to a shitty driver, or a shitty car. That is all.
I've heard and witnessed spinning getting you a little extra speed, but a crummy 60ft, so I imagine bogging would screw your 60 and trap, seeing as how you're not getting that initial velocity from the dig.
Atleast you've got all the basics covered with tune-up and everything. Give it more time and practice. It'd be running great with a 2.0 or even 2.1 60ft.
Atleast you've got all the basics covered with tune-up and everything. Give it more time and practice. It'd be running great with a 2.0 or even 2.1 60ft.
I cut that 13.4 with a 2.0 60ft on a cool cool night, and I've never done it again. That 2.3 could account for damn near a half second.
Yes, with a decent 60 you'd see the right times. The real question is, why is it bogging so bad out of the hole?
Yes, with a decent 60 you'd see the right times. The real question is, why is it bogging so bad out of the hole?
